Hi,
Isn't it against the law to deduct employer contributions from employees' salaries? Are there any court rulings regarding the same? (As I personally feel it is the social responsibility of an employer to provide the amount to PF.)
From India, Kochi
Isn't it against the law to deduct employer contributions from employees' salaries? Are there any court rulings regarding the same? (As I personally feel it is the social responsibility of an employer to provide the amount to PF.)
From India, Kochi
There need not be any court ruling for it, but the Employees' Provident Fund and Miscellaneous Provisions Act, 1952, itself states that the employer's share of the contribution should not be deducted from the salary of the employees.
Regards, Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Regards, Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear MDHLAL, If you have material proof to prove that the deduction are made from the employee, you can lodge a complaint in EPFO. S.Sethupathy.
From India, Coimbatore
From India, Coimbatore
First, kindly check the appointment letter clause. See if there is anything mentioned relating to that, or you have to check the salary structure if it was attached with the appointment letter or offer letter. Before moving forward, kindly review the terms and conditions because you have to substantiate your complaint.
From India, Bhubaneswar
From India, Bhubaneswar
If it is to be deducted from employees' salary, why should it be called "EMPLOYER'S contribution"? It could have been simply said "PF contribution," don't you feel so? The purpose of the Act is both employer and employee have to contribute to the fund.
Employer's contribution has to be paid by the EMPLOYER only. There is no question of a second opinion on this. If there is any clause woven into the appointment letter, it will not hold water.
Balaji
From India, Madras
Employer's contribution has to be paid by the EMPLOYER only. There is no question of a second opinion on this. If there is any clause woven into the appointment letter, it will not hold water.
Balaji
From India, Madras
All the companies have to maintain PF contribution register employee-wise. Employees' as well as employers' contributions month-wise are noted down. One can see from that the accumulated amount of PF. Annual subscriber slips are also sent by the PF Organization, which can be collected from the employer.
From India, Amritsar
From India, Amritsar
If the employer's contribution for PF is included in the CTC offered while joining, this will be deducted from the CTC for the employer's contribution towards PF. However, the gross salary does not include the employer's contribution towards PF or ESI.
Rajusiachen
From India, Coimbatore
Rajusiachen
From India, Coimbatore
RAjusiachen is right. Kindly review the appointment letter for the term they have used. If they have used monthly CTC, then the employer's contribution will be deducted from the respective person's salary. If they have termed the same as gross and the deduction is ongoing, then it's a violation of the law. In that case, kindly approach the HR Department regarding the same.
Regards, Sunil
From India, Bangalore
Regards, Sunil
From India, Bangalore
Dear Members,
Just an addition to the above facts:
Since I have also faced this statement "Employer's PF contribution getting deducted from employee's salary", this, according to me, is mere confusion between certain terms. Normally, a company offers its employees an offer letter which contains CTC (Cost to Company) and Gross Salary (Employee's Salary negotiated with him). Generally, an employer would like to calculate how much an employee would cost him, including all the statutory benefits costs; thus, he arrives at a figure by adding up GROSS (employee's salary) plus ESIC (if any) plus PF, etc., and that forms the employee's CTC. This CTC is usually not the employee's salary but the total cost of the employee which has to be ultimately borne by the employer every month.
Now most of the employees misunderstand the CTC figure as their salary and observe that PF amount is mentioned/deducted twice; that's where they land into confusion. Employees should understand that their salary is definitely their Gross per month, plus the annual allowances (if any like LTA, performance bonus, etc.) and statutory benefits. For ease of understanding, they should better negotiate on gross or take home to be on the safer side.
Having said the above, if still any employer deducts both the shares from employees Gross, then an official written complaint may be lodged at the EPFO along with a copy of the salary sheet on the company's letterhead.
From India, New Delhi
Just an addition to the above facts:
Since I have also faced this statement "Employer's PF contribution getting deducted from employee's salary", this, according to me, is mere confusion between certain terms. Normally, a company offers its employees an offer letter which contains CTC (Cost to Company) and Gross Salary (Employee's Salary negotiated with him). Generally, an employer would like to calculate how much an employee would cost him, including all the statutory benefits costs; thus, he arrives at a figure by adding up GROSS (employee's salary) plus ESIC (if any) plus PF, etc., and that forms the employee's CTC. This CTC is usually not the employee's salary but the total cost of the employee which has to be ultimately borne by the employer every month.
Now most of the employees misunderstand the CTC figure as their salary and observe that PF amount is mentioned/deducted twice; that's where they land into confusion. Employees should understand that their salary is definitely their Gross per month, plus the annual allowances (if any like LTA, performance bonus, etc.) and statutory benefits. For ease of understanding, they should better negotiate on gross or take home to be on the safer side.
Having said the above, if still any employer deducts both the shares from employees Gross, then an official written complaint may be lodged at the EPFO along with a copy of the salary sheet on the company's letterhead.
From India, New Delhi
As some of our friends have mentioned, nowadays most of the companies are following the CTC model. They are providing Annexures, discussing elaborately with the candidates during interviews, obtaining acknowledgments, and including clear Annexures of the salary structure in the appointment letters. This process is done with the full consent of the employee, so there should be no cause for lodging any complaints. Even if a complaint is lodged, it may not stand in a court of law, as this rule is consistently followed across the organization and well-communicated with and accepted by the employees.
In companies where there is no CTC model, deductions occurring without the consent of the employee can lead employees to seek legal recourse.
Regards,
Kamesh
From India, Hyderabad
In companies where there is no CTC model, deductions occurring without the consent of the employee can lead employees to seek legal recourse.
Regards,
Kamesh
From India, Hyderabad
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