Hi,
I would like to appreciate everyone for contributing to the comments of others, thereby educating Indu. Seniors are the backbone of any organization. They have been with the company through its successes and failures, unlike the juniors.
Top management considers the words of seniors, not juniors, as most juniors are typically from a fantasy world. They often fantasize about many things and try various experiments. Seniors are not in the experimentation stage but in the implementation stage. Juniors are assessed by the top management, not the seniors.
Regarding handling seniors, I believe it would be better not to antagonize them and lose their support. If the top management has neglected them, why should HR be responsible for mending the situation? HR can excel with the support of the top management or the union.
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M. Felix. C
From India, Bangalore
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1I would like to appreciate everyone for contributing to the comments of others, thereby educating Indu. Seniors are the backbone of any organization. They have been with the company through its successes and failures, unlike the juniors.
Top management considers the words of seniors, not juniors, as most juniors are typically from a fantasy world. They often fantasize about many things and try various experiments. Seniors are not in the experimentation stage but in the implementation stage. Juniors are assessed by the top management, not the seniors.
Regarding handling seniors, I believe it would be better not to antagonize them and lose their support. If the top management has neglected them, why should HR be responsible for mending the situation? HR can excel with the support of the top management or the union.
Thank you,
M. Felix. C
From India, Bangalore
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Respected Senior (M. Felix C),
Thank you for your valuable comments. I absolutely agree with you when you say that "if the management is not bothered, then why should I be bothered." However, the problem is the management wants me to handle the situation, and they are saying that I have to handle them tactfully. I know it's my duty to do that, but it's quite difficult to bring changes to the age-old practices. So, I think I need time, and I am putting in my best efforts to first gain acceptance from them and then try to implement the rules.
Keep posting.
Thanks and Regards,
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Thank you for your valuable comments. I absolutely agree with you when you say that "if the management is not bothered, then why should I be bothered." However, the problem is the management wants me to handle the situation, and they are saying that I have to handle them tactfully. I know it's my duty to do that, but it's quite difficult to bring changes to the age-old practices. So, I think I need time, and I am putting in my best efforts to first gain acceptance from them and then try to implement the rules.
Keep posting.
Thanks and Regards,
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Hi Mitr,
Thank you for your comments. In my case, I do not say that top management doesn't support me, but they want me to be in action rather than them showing their face. I will try to get management more actively involved in the process as per your suggestion.
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Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Thank you for your comments. In my case, I do not say that top management doesn't support me, but they want me to be in action rather than them showing their face. I will try to get management more actively involved in the process as per your suggestion.
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Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Respected Santosh,
Thank you for your valuable suggestion. I must say that your suggestion is very much doable and relevant to the situation.
Keep posting.
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Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Thank you for your valuable suggestion. I must say that your suggestion is very much doable and relevant to the situation.
Keep posting.
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Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Respected Senior(Ryan)
Thank you so much for your valuable comments .I would just like to add that ours is a small company so anybody not signing the muster will not invite any legal implicatiions.I am in the process of drafting an HR manual and I have put all these details in the Manual .I hope it is going to help
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Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Thank you so much for your valuable comments .I would just like to add that ours is a small company so anybody not signing the muster will not invite any legal implicatiions.I am in the process of drafting an HR manual and I have put all these details in the Manual .I hope it is going to help
Keep Posting
Thanks and Regards
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Respected Senior (Om Prakash),
Thank you for your valuable suggestions. I would like to add that I keep on reminding them day in and day out, but somehow I feel things are falling on deaf ears. As some of the members have suggested on this post, I am trying to understand their problem and reach out to them so that I can bring a positive change in them. I hope it helps.
I know you must have seen the world more than I have, but still, I feel that this problem is there with people all over the world; maybe it's a little more serious with Indians.
Keep posting.
Thanks and Regards,
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Thank you for your valuable suggestions. I would like to add that I keep on reminding them day in and day out, but somehow I feel things are falling on deaf ears. As some of the members have suggested on this post, I am trying to understand their problem and reach out to them so that I can bring a positive change in them. I hope it helps.
I know you must have seen the world more than I have, but still, I feel that this problem is there with people all over the world; maybe it's a little more serious with Indians.
Keep posting.
Thanks and Regards,
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Dear HR,
"HR is born to solve the problems."
There is no junior or senior in this!! "We are professionals and will be professional." Before attacking any problem, we should know the root cause and the situation thereon. (Proverb says - "Know the enemies before entering the battlefield.)
So, in your case, you can just look into their past activities and question yourself why this is happening?
Even there may be a problem from your department as well. The previous HR has taken a liberal approach and not followed the process, creating a loophole.
"Make the rules or break the rules."
Anyhow, your department HOD knows about this matter. So, take this as an advantage and put forward your suggestion, "This is not applicable for senior management."
But regarding attendance, "you can opt for a punch card system."
Then they will be responsible for their "presence" or "absence." (This depends on the number of employees working in your organization.)
Regards,
Member of HR Family
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"HR is born to solve the problems."
There is no junior or senior in this!! "We are professionals and will be professional." Before attacking any problem, we should know the root cause and the situation thereon. (Proverb says - "Know the enemies before entering the battlefield.)
So, in your case, you can just look into their past activities and question yourself why this is happening?
Even there may be a problem from your department as well. The previous HR has taken a liberal approach and not followed the process, creating a loophole.
"Make the rules or break the rules."
Anyhow, your department HOD knows about this matter. So, take this as an advantage and put forward your suggestion, "This is not applicable for senior management."
But regarding attendance, "you can opt for a punch card system."
Then they will be responsible for their "presence" or "absence." (This depends on the number of employees working in your organization.)
Regards,
Member of HR Family
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