I am sorry if none of us answered your second question:"... would that be ok if my package was bit higher to get better salary in new company? Is this a regular practice?"
I do not know the answer, as I have not done a survey. Hence, rather than answer that question, I kindly request you to study sayings at Honesty Quotes, Sayings about Dishonesty, Lying, Truth and then tell us do you think IT IS A REGULAR PRACTICE.
Simhan
From United Kingdom
1624I do not know the answer, as I have not done a survey. Hence, rather than answer that question, I kindly request you to study sayings at Honesty Quotes, Sayings about Dishonesty, Lying, Truth and then tell us do you think IT IS A REGULAR PRACTICE.
Simhan
From United Kingdom
I am sorry if people like Mangesh are allowed to use such forums simply to see their names and remonstrate their RIGHTS. There should be some policy at Citeman to screen such frivolous publicity minded queries.
So Mangesh here is my response. If you are a HR professional making such an enquiry you are not cut off for HR. If you are an applicant then you dont have a future too. There are a lot of people who think they can get away with these sort of frauds but when they are caught they dont know which way to look.
I can see that you are young and immature so get on with life and your career.
From Canada, Ottawa
So Mangesh here is my response. If you are a HR professional making such an enquiry you are not cut off for HR. If you are an applicant then you dont have a future too. There are a lot of people who think they can get away with these sort of frauds but when they are caught they dont know which way to look.
I can see that you are young and immature so get on with life and your career.
From Canada, Ottawa
Deciding new salary based on past salary is an absurd practice in HR business and should be used only for survey purposes and not for benchmarking. When you change the job, your responsibilities, authorities, working environments, cultures,...everything changes. The new job salary is the agreed remuneration for the new job based on your utility & potential, and and has nothing to do with old package. I believe, you tell them actual salary but tell what you expect. If they find a better candidate at cheaper cost, they may not ask you, but if they are desperate and you negotiate well, they may agree to even higher than your expectations. Ultimately new salary is based on a demand-supply equation.
From Bahrain
From Bahrain
My suggestion is no, ethically & morally. You are always going to reap what you sow. So, let us speak the truth even if we are disadvantaged. Mr. Samuel Academician
From Malaysia, Ipoh
From Malaysia, Ipoh
It is an unethical practice and must not be considered as an option at all.. Lying, forgery etc will not get you anywhere. Look at the large scams in India. I stop to think that if the "Moral Sciences" we learned in school was any effective, these scams would not have occurred in the first place.
Don't cheat or fudge my friend. It will come back later to bite you. Be honest in your dealings, live a peaceful and happy life.
From Netherlands
Don't cheat or fudge my friend. It will come back later to bite you. Be honest in your dealings, live a peaceful and happy life.
From Netherlands
Hi All, its enough now for this poor friend. Lets move to some other reasonable discussion. thanks all of you for your valuable suggestions that might be helpful not only to this friend but also to many others like him who wanted to ask such questions but couldn't. Thanks once again.
regards
Amarjeet Singh Bhangu
From India, Mumbai
regards
Amarjeet Singh Bhangu
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mangesh,
There may be two most appropriate option in this regard to say false salary-package statement to newly entering employer.
1) Cheating the new employer by showing false detail. This may cause obstacle in the growth of the career of person further.
2) In the today's global competitive job sector there is very tough for a person to get a better pay package in preliminary stage. Sometime employer also not considering the low profile employee in better pay package either the person is well equipped of talent & have expert in the respective area. Because of this sometime employee telling lie about salary information.
It may be wrong for healthy growth of the job sector or for a person/employee. But the most important is that employer checks the credibility, knowledge, skill of the person and on this decide to hire him/her for particular job at better pay-package.
Thanks & Best Regards:
Vikas Ranjan
From India, Bangalore
There may be two most appropriate option in this regard to say false salary-package statement to newly entering employer.
1) Cheating the new employer by showing false detail. This may cause obstacle in the growth of the career of person further.
2) In the today's global competitive job sector there is very tough for a person to get a better pay package in preliminary stage. Sometime employer also not considering the low profile employee in better pay package either the person is well equipped of talent & have expert in the respective area. Because of this sometime employee telling lie about salary information.
It may be wrong for healthy growth of the job sector or for a person/employee. But the most important is that employer checks the credibility, knowledge, skill of the person and on this decide to hire him/her for particular job at better pay-package.
Thanks & Best Regards:
Vikas Ranjan
From India, Bangalore
It is not advisable to hide or lie or fudge data to any employer whether its salary or any other information. Every organization has policy around hiring and Background Verification checks. Organization definitely do background checks which covers employment related proofs (i.e. last designation, year of employment, character/behavior during the service, salary checks etc), present or permanent address verification, academic verification, criminal checks etc. During background checks some organization may not be reveling the salary information but it does not hold good with all the employer and there are many other ways to verify this details. My advice is does not fudge any data, be open and gain expertise to earn good money. Wish you all the best for your future endeavor!!
From India, Ghaziabad
From India, Ghaziabad
Dear Mangesh,
In whatever may be the intention you have put your thoughts, but it is totally wrong. Work is worship, from whom you would want to hide the truth. Regarding the pay particulars any one can cross check from many other agencies viz. PF / TDS Returns / IT Returns / Your Previous Boss etc etc and eventually truth is going to bite, that to YOU only for faking it. Please do not try to follow some unethical people, though they might seem helping you but morally the thought is wrong. Pay/Salary is what given to a person on his intellectual / professional expertise, even if you have faked it, that can not be hidden from the persons activities. That is true.
Money is always wanted to everyone including the born rich, employers and employees also but when you want your career please do not FAKE based on card-building. My advise to you is be honest to maintain your inner soul confidence.
Best of Luck...
VL Prasad
From India, Delhi
In whatever may be the intention you have put your thoughts, but it is totally wrong. Work is worship, from whom you would want to hide the truth. Regarding the pay particulars any one can cross check from many other agencies viz. PF / TDS Returns / IT Returns / Your Previous Boss etc etc and eventually truth is going to bite, that to YOU only for faking it. Please do not try to follow some unethical people, though they might seem helping you but morally the thought is wrong. Pay/Salary is what given to a person on his intellectual / professional expertise, even if you have faked it, that can not be hidden from the persons activities. That is true.
Money is always wanted to everyone including the born rich, employers and employees also but when you want your career please do not FAKE based on card-building. My advise to you is be honest to maintain your inner soul confidence.
Best of Luck...
VL Prasad
From India, Delhi
I'm shocked to have read such a question. More importantly than getting caught etc., I think this just reflects on your value system. Please understand that as professionals/otherwise, one has to uphold high values on integrity and ethics. As much as am surprised to note such a query, am also glad that you thought it appropriate to check. As all of them have mentioned, please tread the path of honesty and DO NOT ever for a moment err on it. All the Best.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
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