Hi Seniors, I want to know HR or Admin is the same prolife or we consider Admin as a part of HR?
Pls let me know what is the KRA of HR in Hospital, Hotels and education industry.?
Will it be considered as HR or Admin in these industries?
From India, Chandigarh
Pls let me know what is the KRA of HR in Hospital, Hotels and education industry.?
Will it be considered as HR or Admin in these industries?
From India, Chandigarh
Hello Arti,
HR and Admin both are different profiles, however in few small size conventional companies these both things are handled by HR of the company itself.
If we talk about the KRA of HR and Admin, in a broader context HR is someone who is doing Man Management in the organisation i.e. anything related to the manpower of company is been managed by HR, it could start from Recruitment, Payroll management to Exit of the employee from the organisation, whereas Admin is something which is related to the administration or office management of the company for example managing office maintenance, office facilities etc comes under the KRA of admin.
From India, Kollam
67HR and Admin both are different profiles, however in few small size conventional companies these both things are handled by HR of the company itself.
If we talk about the KRA of HR and Admin, in a broader context HR is someone who is doing Man Management in the organisation i.e. anything related to the manpower of company is been managed by HR, it could start from Recruitment, Payroll management to Exit of the employee from the organisation, whereas Admin is something which is related to the administration or office management of the company for example managing office maintenance, office facilities etc comes under the KRA of admin.
From India, Kollam
Dear Aarti,
Admin is more of day to day management whereas HR is long term. Yet the day to day issues can become IR issues which HR can prevent with a long term perspective. A plug point is broken is an admin issue. An employee received a shock would become an IR issue when the broken plug is not replaced in spite of reminders. A good HR policy that has a weekly grievance resolving meet can help prevent such issues.
Like this there are any number of examples. Based on your working area you can define KRA.
Kannan
From India, Madras
Admin is more of day to day management whereas HR is long term. Yet the day to day issues can become IR issues which HR can prevent with a long term perspective. A plug point is broken is an admin issue. An employee received a shock would become an IR issue when the broken plug is not replaced in spite of reminders. A good HR policy that has a weekly grievance resolving meet can help prevent such issues.
Like this there are any number of examples. Based on your working area you can define KRA.
Kannan
From India, Madras
hello
this is the difference between HR, Personnel,Admin and IR
HR Manpower management, the whole process of employee in organisation.,wage management
Personnel Employee data. correspondance with diffferent deptt, management
Admin Office management , office maintance ,vechile management ect
IR Dispute, Industrial Relation , trade union
Nobal Prabha Kishor
From India, Shimla
this is the difference between HR, Personnel,Admin and IR
HR Manpower management, the whole process of employee in organisation.,wage management
Personnel Employee data. correspondance with diffferent deptt, management
Admin Office management , office maintance ,vechile management ect
IR Dispute, Industrial Relation , trade union
Nobal Prabha Kishor
From India, Shimla
Dear Aarti,
All members have contributed to explain the difference in between HR & Admin.I would share the KRAs of HR professional in General which can be applied to any industry.The below mentioned KRAs are applicable to Middle Management
1. Recruitment & Selection
a. Recruitment at Junior levels within number of days
b. Recruitment at Senior levels within number of days
2. Conduct of Employee Induction and taking feedback (within no.of days from employee joining).
2. Conduct of Training Program within a specific date and taking feedback.
3. Completion of Appraisals and Increments within a specific date.
4. Handling of employee legal matters.
5. Conducting Exit Interviews and sharing feedback with management (Within No. of days from employee resignation).
6. Processing of Pending Confirmations/ Pending Settlements (within no. of days)
The above mentioned are few KRAs which can be considered for HR function within any industry.
Regards,
Sumit
From India, Mumbai
All members have contributed to explain the difference in between HR & Admin.I would share the KRAs of HR professional in General which can be applied to any industry.The below mentioned KRAs are applicable to Middle Management
1. Recruitment & Selection
a. Recruitment at Junior levels within number of days
b. Recruitment at Senior levels within number of days
2. Conduct of Employee Induction and taking feedback (within no.of days from employee joining).
2. Conduct of Training Program within a specific date and taking feedback.
3. Completion of Appraisals and Increments within a specific date.
4. Handling of employee legal matters.
5. Conducting Exit Interviews and sharing feedback with management (Within No. of days from employee resignation).
6. Processing of Pending Confirmations/ Pending Settlements (within no. of days)
The above mentioned are few KRAs which can be considered for HR function within any industry.
Regards,
Sumit
From India, Mumbai
Hi,
as per my opinion Admin dept is always part of HR dept.
KRA for HR & Admin can be.......
HR KRA
# Recruitment with specified time period.
# Minimum man days / hours of training for each employee
# Compliance with deadlines
# At least Two / three engagement programs in one qtr
# KRA / PMS cycle with time limit
Admin:
# provide services to employees with 48 hours
# Renewal of all Annual Maintenance contract in time & to get quotation from vendors for different services.
# arrangement of guest house, vehicle, travelling mgt for employee on need base.
This are few examples only KRA may vary depend on org to org.
Rdgs
Sandip Mehta
From India, Pune
as per my opinion Admin dept is always part of HR dept.
KRA for HR & Admin can be.......
HR KRA
# Recruitment with specified time period.
# Minimum man days / hours of training for each employee
# Compliance with deadlines
# At least Two / three engagement programs in one qtr
# KRA / PMS cycle with time limit
Admin:
# provide services to employees with 48 hours
# Renewal of all Annual Maintenance contract in time & to get quotation from vendors for different services.
# arrangement of guest house, vehicle, travelling mgt for employee on need base.
This are few examples only KRA may vary depend on org to org.
Rdgs
Sandip Mehta
From India, Pune
Dear Truth Seeker
Your Queries: " I want to know HR or Admin is the same profile or we consider Admin as a part of HR? Pls let me know what is the KRA of HR
in Hospital, Hotels and education industry? Will it be considered as HR or Admin in these industries?
Position: H R M vis-a-vis Administration are Not the Same, conceptually. The Profile / Functions differ. HRM focuses on Transformation
of People-you-Hire-and-Have with specific reference to their Untapped Potential-to-Perform Better-than-Before by
empowering them to apply/use their Discretion (within prescribed Organization Limits). This is precipitated by Pooling their
Energy and Intelligence and allowing Contributions
The KRA of HRM to begin with shall include i) Relating to the People; ii) Listening to the People more frequently- informally
and formally; iii) Channelizing their Ideas, Suggestions, Constructive Criticism; v) Seeking and Securing Superior
Performance from them after defining crystal-clear their Duties, Responsibilities and Roles and v) Acknowledging their
Contribution without any Arbitrariness accompanied by Suitable Rewards ( Praise - Public or Private- ) included.
HRM focus remains the one and the same wherever you employ/engage People. "Without Others Nothing can be Achieved".
The HRM Functions/Duties/Focus/Crusade/Intervention/Business Activity will be What It Is whether one Knows it as HRM or
HRD or People Management or Man Management or Workforce Deployment or whatever. It is a Sacred Pursuit
Harsh K Sharan
Kritarth Consulting Pvt Ltd
28th August 2014
Bangaluru Camp
From India, Delhi
Your Queries: " I want to know HR or Admin is the same profile or we consider Admin as a part of HR? Pls let me know what is the KRA of HR
in Hospital, Hotels and education industry? Will it be considered as HR or Admin in these industries?
Position: H R M vis-a-vis Administration are Not the Same, conceptually. The Profile / Functions differ. HRM focuses on Transformation
of People-you-Hire-and-Have with specific reference to their Untapped Potential-to-Perform Better-than-Before by
empowering them to apply/use their Discretion (within prescribed Organization Limits). This is precipitated by Pooling their
Energy and Intelligence and allowing Contributions
The KRA of HRM to begin with shall include i) Relating to the People; ii) Listening to the People more frequently- informally
and formally; iii) Channelizing their Ideas, Suggestions, Constructive Criticism; v) Seeking and Securing Superior
Performance from them after defining crystal-clear their Duties, Responsibilities and Roles and v) Acknowledging their
Contribution without any Arbitrariness accompanied by Suitable Rewards ( Praise - Public or Private- ) included.
HRM focus remains the one and the same wherever you employ/engage People. "Without Others Nothing can be Achieved".
The HRM Functions/Duties/Focus/Crusade/Intervention/Business Activity will be What It Is whether one Knows it as HRM or
HRD or People Management or Man Management or Workforce Deployment or whatever. It is a Sacred Pursuit
Harsh K Sharan
Kritarth Consulting Pvt Ltd
28th August 2014
Bangaluru Camp
From India, Delhi
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