Dear Friends, I am now helping people to solve scaffolding issues. In case any one is interested in clarifying doubts on scaffolding you may post the issues in this forum pl. Regards, Kesava Pillai
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Dear Friends,
Many of you may have photographs from construction sites showing scaffolding deficiencies. Please attach any photographs that could be used for scaffolder training if you can.
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Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Many of you may have photographs from construction sites showing scaffolding deficiencies. Please attach any photographs that could be used for scaffolder training if you can.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear friends, One such photograph attached was for your comments pl Regards, Kesava Pillai
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for coming forward with such a useful discussion. Please give me a few days. I will come forward with my doubts and photographs. As it's Onam, I am on leave for two days. Once I resume duties, I will send them to you.
However, Happy Onam to you and everyone in the forum.
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Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Thank you for coming forward with such a useful discussion. Please give me a few days. I will come forward with my doubts and photographs. As it's Onam, I am on leave for two days. Once I resume duties, I will send them to you.
However, Happy Onam to you and everyone in the forum.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Sir,
Please find the attachments:
One is the photograph that you uploaded with my comments, and the second one includes a few photos of scaffolding. Some of the photos may be useful to you.
Now, my queries related to Scaffolding:
1. How many types of scaffolding are there as per the Indian Standard?
2. Which is the latest IS code for Scaffolding?
3. Is the use of Bamboo & Wooden material in Scaffold construction valid as per statutory requirements? Can we advise the use of wooden planks as working platforms in scaffolding? If so, what should be the size of planks?
4. What should be the minimum width of a working platform in scaffolding?
5. How can we ensure a firm base for the erection of scaffolding? If the surface is backfilled and compacted well, is soil testing required before erecting each scaffolding?
6. If staging/scaffolding is made for slab/column/beam casting,
a. How can we calculate the load coming on a particular scaffolding?
b. How do we choose the right type of scaffolding to be used?
7. How much factor of safety should be considered during the erection of scaffolding?
8. What is the acceptable variation in the verticality of scaffolding? Is it advisable to check the same using a plumb?
9. Is using steel rods as joint pins safe? Some scaffolders argue that it's much heavier than joint pins. What could go wrong in this unsafe practice?
10. What type of access should be advised for use in scaffolding?
If you feel any of the questions are too silly, please ignore them.
Hope to get your answers soon.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Please find the attachments:
One is the photograph that you uploaded with my comments, and the second one includes a few photos of scaffolding. Some of the photos may be useful to you.
Now, my queries related to Scaffolding:
1. How many types of scaffolding are there as per the Indian Standard?
2. Which is the latest IS code for Scaffolding?
3. Is the use of Bamboo & Wooden material in Scaffold construction valid as per statutory requirements? Can we advise the use of wooden planks as working platforms in scaffolding? If so, what should be the size of planks?
4. What should be the minimum width of a working platform in scaffolding?
5. How can we ensure a firm base for the erection of scaffolding? If the surface is backfilled and compacted well, is soil testing required before erecting each scaffolding?
6. If staging/scaffolding is made for slab/column/beam casting,
a. How can we calculate the load coming on a particular scaffolding?
b. How do we choose the right type of scaffolding to be used?
7. How much factor of safety should be considered during the erection of scaffolding?
8. What is the acceptable variation in the verticality of scaffolding? Is it advisable to check the same using a plumb?
9. Is using steel rods as joint pins safe? Some scaffolders argue that it's much heavier than joint pins. What could go wrong in this unsafe practice?
10. What type of access should be advised for use in scaffolding?
If you feel any of the questions are too silly, please ignore them.
Hope to get your answers soon.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear All Attaching one Scaffolding interactive quiz... Try it and enjoy learning... Regards, Dipil Kumar V
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Dear Friend,
There are too many questions to answer at a time. Let me try...!
1. How many types of scaffolding are there as per Indian Standard?
Regret, I have not come across the IS specification on various types of scaffolds.
However, types of scaffolds in use are listed below:-
Commonly used scaffolds: Tube and coupler, fabricated tubular frame, System, Bracket, Under-hung, manually propelled mobile scaffold.
Other Scaffolds are: Adjustable and non-adjustable suspension scaffolds, Boatswain's chairs, Bricklayer's square scaffolds, Carpenter's bracket scaffolds, Centenary scaffolds, Chimney hoist, Float scaffolds, Form scaffolds, Horse scaffolds, Ladder jack scaffolds, Lean-to scaffolds, Outrigger scaffolds, pump jack scaffolds, Repair bracket scaffolds, Roof bracket scaffolds, Shore scaffolds, Single pole scaffolds, Step, platform, and trestle ladder scaffolds, Window jack scaffolds.
2. Which is the latest IS code for Scaffolding?
IS 2750:1964 Specification for steel scaffoldings
IS 3696:1987 Scaffolds & ladders (Part I - Scaffolds)
IS 3696:1991 Scaffolds & ladders (Part II - Ladders)
IS 4014:1967 Steel tubular scaffolding (Part I and Part II) ... may be more!
3. Bamboo & Wooden material using in Scaffold construction is valid as per statutory requirements? Can we advise to use wooden planks as working platforms in scaffolding? If so, what should be the size of planks?
Absolutely no statutory prohibition in using bamboo or wooden scaffolds. It is not possible to prohibit it too.
More than metal platforms, wooden planks are used for scaffold platforms all over the world. You can definitely advise using wooden planks for scaffold platform construction wherever flammable materials are not prohibited.
Size of planks: 2" X 9" or 2" X 10" solid sawn wood or laminated veneer lumber of 1-1/2" X 9"
4. What should be the minimum width of a working platform in scaffolding? 3 planks
5. How to ensure a firm base for the erection of scaffolding? Suppose the surface is backfilled and compacted well? Whether soil testing to be done before erecting each scaffolding is required?
Soil testing is not resorted to. However, a firm ground is essential. Ensure the soil is compacted well. Provide mud sill (sole board). A competent person shall check and confirm ways to ensure stability.
6. Suppose staging/scaffolding made for slab/column/beam casting,
a. How can we calculate the load coming on a particular scaffolding?
b. How to choose the right type of scaffolding to be used?
For slab/column/beam casting, the scaffold needed is heavy-duty. Add the total weight of the scaffold and all other loads – either dead or live coming on the scaffold and multiply by 4 and design the scaffold for that load. Remember the factor of safety for scaffold is 4.
Either tube and coupler or system scaffold can be used for all heavy-duty purposes; however, only a competent structural engineer can design heavy-duty scaffold.
7. How much factor of safety to be considered while erection of scaffolding?
Factor of safety for scaffolds - 4
8. How much variation on the verticality of scaffolding is acceptable? Is that practically advisable to check the same by using plumb?
Nil, the scaffold should be perfectly plumb and level.
9. Using steel rods as joint pins? The scaffolders arguing that it's much heavier than joint pins. What can go wrong in this unsafe practice?
Ordinary mild steel rods are not acceptable as joint pins. Joint pin is of a different material and shaped to suit the requirement.
10. What type of access to be advised to use in scaffoldings?
Stairways, ramps, or ladders.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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There are too many questions to answer at a time. Let me try...!
1. How many types of scaffolding are there as per Indian Standard?
Regret, I have not come across the IS specification on various types of scaffolds.
However, types of scaffolds in use are listed below:-
Commonly used scaffolds: Tube and coupler, fabricated tubular frame, System, Bracket, Under-hung, manually propelled mobile scaffold.
Other Scaffolds are: Adjustable and non-adjustable suspension scaffolds, Boatswain's chairs, Bricklayer's square scaffolds, Carpenter's bracket scaffolds, Centenary scaffolds, Chimney hoist, Float scaffolds, Form scaffolds, Horse scaffolds, Ladder jack scaffolds, Lean-to scaffolds, Outrigger scaffolds, pump jack scaffolds, Repair bracket scaffolds, Roof bracket scaffolds, Shore scaffolds, Single pole scaffolds, Step, platform, and trestle ladder scaffolds, Window jack scaffolds.
2. Which is the latest IS code for Scaffolding?
IS 2750:1964 Specification for steel scaffoldings
IS 3696:1987 Scaffolds & ladders (Part I - Scaffolds)
IS 3696:1991 Scaffolds & ladders (Part II - Ladders)
IS 4014:1967 Steel tubular scaffolding (Part I and Part II) ... may be more!
3. Bamboo & Wooden material using in Scaffold construction is valid as per statutory requirements? Can we advise to use wooden planks as working platforms in scaffolding? If so, what should be the size of planks?
Absolutely no statutory prohibition in using bamboo or wooden scaffolds. It is not possible to prohibit it too.
More than metal platforms, wooden planks are used for scaffold platforms all over the world. You can definitely advise using wooden planks for scaffold platform construction wherever flammable materials are not prohibited.
Size of planks: 2" X 9" or 2" X 10" solid sawn wood or laminated veneer lumber of 1-1/2" X 9"
4. What should be the minimum width of a working platform in scaffolding? 3 planks
5. How to ensure a firm base for the erection of scaffolding? Suppose the surface is backfilled and compacted well? Whether soil testing to be done before erecting each scaffolding is required?
Soil testing is not resorted to. However, a firm ground is essential. Ensure the soil is compacted well. Provide mud sill (sole board). A competent person shall check and confirm ways to ensure stability.
6. Suppose staging/scaffolding made for slab/column/beam casting,
a. How can we calculate the load coming on a particular scaffolding?
b. How to choose the right type of scaffolding to be used?
For slab/column/beam casting, the scaffold needed is heavy-duty. Add the total weight of the scaffold and all other loads – either dead or live coming on the scaffold and multiply by 4 and design the scaffold for that load. Remember the factor of safety for scaffold is 4.
Either tube and coupler or system scaffold can be used for all heavy-duty purposes; however, only a competent structural engineer can design heavy-duty scaffold.
7. How much factor of safety to be considered while erection of scaffolding?
Factor of safety for scaffolds - 4
8. How much variation on the verticality of scaffolding is acceptable? Is that practically advisable to check the same by using plumb?
Nil, the scaffold should be perfectly plumb and level.
9. Using steel rods as joint pins? The scaffolders arguing that it's much heavier than joint pins. What can go wrong in this unsafe practice?
Ordinary mild steel rods are not acceptable as joint pins. Joint pin is of a different material and shaped to suit the requirement.
10. What type of access to be advised to use in scaffoldings?
Stairways, ramps, or ladders.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear all,
I saw the attached photos. We want to take a closer look at those photos because most of the workers in scaffolding are without SAFETY HARNESS.
Dear friends, I have a question for you. Who took that picture? If you took the picture, what actions did you take on this matter...??????
Thank you.
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I saw the attached photos. We want to take a closer look at those photos because most of the workers in scaffolding are without SAFETY HARNESS.
Dear friends, I have a question for you. Who took that picture? If you took the picture, what actions did you take on this matter...??????
Thank you.
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Dear Raghu,
Nice to see your posting and comments. After going through the same, a few questions arose in my mind. If you don't mind, please reply:
1. You commented on the photo in which workers are without Safety Harness. What punitive action should be taken against them? Would terminating the employees on the scaffolding improve the safety culture?
2. Do you have any standard procedure for such work?
3. Do the workers know about those standards?
4. Where is your line management that gives permission to start the work? Why did they not check from a safety point of view? Would they be affected if you terminate a few workers?
My point is that the system should work, not the person. For that, responsibility and accountability should be clearly defined. If unsafe acts are occurring on-site, it means, as per my understanding, there is a systemic failure. By punishing one or two individuals, you are on the wrong path. For sustainable safety improvement, please concentrate on system improvement rather than resorting to such measures.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Nice to see your posting and comments. After going through the same, a few questions arose in my mind. If you don't mind, please reply:
1. You commented on the photo in which workers are without Safety Harness. What punitive action should be taken against them? Would terminating the employees on the scaffolding improve the safety culture?
2. Do you have any standard procedure for such work?
3. Do the workers know about those standards?
4. Where is your line management that gives permission to start the work? Why did they not check from a safety point of view? Would they be affected if you terminate a few workers?
My point is that the system should work, not the person. For that, responsibility and accountability should be clearly defined. If unsafe acts are occurring on-site, it means, as per my understanding, there is a systemic failure. By punishing one or two individuals, you are on the wrong path. For sustainable safety improvement, please concentrate on system improvement rather than resorting to such measures.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Sir,
You commented on the photo in which workers are without Safety Harness. What punitive action should be taken against them? Terminating the employees on the scaffolding will improve the safety culture?
Termination is not the solution for all problems. We are primarily responsible for implementing safety on our site. However, in this case, we have failed. In that picture, those who work on the scaffold without harness, I am sure they did not attend the safety orientation. It means we have failed in safety. Why did the safety guy allow the worker on-site without safety orientation?
Check with the safety guy who posted that picture; I am sure they did not attend the orientation. If employees attend the orientation, it means they made a mistake. We should teach them a lesson.
Do you have any standard procedure for such work?
Yes, we have a standard procedure for all activities. As per OSHA risk assessment (RA) / job safety analysis (JSA), we need to prepare for all activities. According to EM-385, we need to prepare/submit activity hazard analysis (AHA) for all activities. Before starting any new activities on our site, a prefatory meeting should be conducted. All those involved in the job must attend the meeting without fail. This is the international standard procedure for all kinds of work.
If the workers were aware of those standards?
Those working in construction/industry should know the basic rules and regulations. We are also responsible for ensuring they know the basic rules.
Example:
• If anybody enters a construction site, they should wear 100% PPE.
• If you work at a height above 6 feet, you should wear a safety harness.
Where is your line management that gives permission to start the work? Why do they not check from a safety point of view? Would they be affected if you terminate a few workers?
In my site, before starting any new activities, even small tasks, our contractor safety (myself) prepares/submits AHA to the client. It is then revised and forwarded to the Corps of Engineers (Navy Safety) for approval. After approval, a prefatory meeting is conducted, and permits are issued. This is the process in my site. However, if they are doing the job without our knowledge, it means they are violating safety rules.
For Your Information, Sir:
In my site, we have crossed 5 million man-hours without LTI. (In U.S. Corps of Engineers' history, this is the first time it has happened).
The main reason we have achieved this goal is that we never give anyone, including my boss, a chance to compromise safety. We do not want to lose this record.
This is my way of taking disciplinary action:
• First time - Verbal warning
• Second time - Written warning + 1-day pay cut
• Third time - Terminated from my site.
If you want a copy of the AHA, I will provide it.
Thanks & Besafe
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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You commented on the photo in which workers are without Safety Harness. What punitive action should be taken against them? Terminating the employees on the scaffolding will improve the safety culture?
Termination is not the solution for all problems. We are primarily responsible for implementing safety on our site. However, in this case, we have failed. In that picture, those who work on the scaffold without harness, I am sure they did not attend the safety orientation. It means we have failed in safety. Why did the safety guy allow the worker on-site without safety orientation?
Check with the safety guy who posted that picture; I am sure they did not attend the orientation. If employees attend the orientation, it means they made a mistake. We should teach them a lesson.
Do you have any standard procedure for such work?
Yes, we have a standard procedure for all activities. As per OSHA risk assessment (RA) / job safety analysis (JSA), we need to prepare for all activities. According to EM-385, we need to prepare/submit activity hazard analysis (AHA) for all activities. Before starting any new activities on our site, a prefatory meeting should be conducted. All those involved in the job must attend the meeting without fail. This is the international standard procedure for all kinds of work.
If the workers were aware of those standards?
Those working in construction/industry should know the basic rules and regulations. We are also responsible for ensuring they know the basic rules.
Example:
• If anybody enters a construction site, they should wear 100% PPE.
• If you work at a height above 6 feet, you should wear a safety harness.
Where is your line management that gives permission to start the work? Why do they not check from a safety point of view? Would they be affected if you terminate a few workers?
In my site, before starting any new activities, even small tasks, our contractor safety (myself) prepares/submits AHA to the client. It is then revised and forwarded to the Corps of Engineers (Navy Safety) for approval. After approval, a prefatory meeting is conducted, and permits are issued. This is the process in my site. However, if they are doing the job without our knowledge, it means they are violating safety rules.
For Your Information, Sir:
In my site, we have crossed 5 million man-hours without LTI. (In U.S. Corps of Engineers' history, this is the first time it has happened).
The main reason we have achieved this goal is that we never give anyone, including my boss, a chance to compromise safety. We do not want to lose this record.
This is my way of taking disciplinary action:
• First time - Verbal warning
• Second time - Written warning + 1-day pay cut
• Third time - Terminated from my site.
If you want a copy of the AHA, I will provide it.
Thanks & Besafe
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Raghu,
Nice to see your reply, and first of all, sorry for the late response.
I appreciate that you have a good safety record. Keep it up, and may God help you maintain it.
One doubt that comes to mind after reading your reply is that you mentioned the employee who made a mistake had not undergone safety orientation. Even with international safety standards in place, how did this happen? Here, system failure comes into the picture. I am just sharing my observation. I also believe that penalizing is essential, even up to terminating a contract or an employee. However, this should come at a later stage. The process could involve training, counseling, verbal warning, written warning, penalizing, and then termination. I am certain that by demonstrating genuine concern for employees' safety, termination can be avoided. Through training, employees should grasp the importance of safety. The training should be conducted in a manner that makes employees feel cared for by the company. This approach will likely lead to compliance. There may still be a 10% non-compliance rate, which should be dealt with accordingly.
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Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Nice to see your reply, and first of all, sorry for the late response.
I appreciate that you have a good safety record. Keep it up, and may God help you maintain it.
One doubt that comes to mind after reading your reply is that you mentioned the employee who made a mistake had not undergone safety orientation. Even with international safety standards in place, how did this happen? Here, system failure comes into the picture. I am just sharing my observation. I also believe that penalizing is essential, even up to terminating a contract or an employee. However, this should come at a later stage. The process could involve training, counseling, verbal warning, written warning, penalizing, and then termination. I am certain that by demonstrating genuine concern for employees' safety, termination can be avoided. Through training, employees should grasp the importance of safety. The training should be conducted in a manner that makes employees feel cared for by the company. This approach will likely lead to compliance. There may still be a 10% non-compliance rate, which should be dealt with accordingly.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Sir,
Attaching a few more photos of Unsafe Scaffolding... They may be useful to you for training purposes.
Can you please answer the following two questions:
1. What should be the ideal material for sole plates and base plates? Can we avoid the use of these and allow direct placement of pipes directly to the ground if they are sound and rigid?
2. I am attaching a Scaffold Checklist. Please go through it and provide your valuable feedback. Does this checklist cover the bare minimum requirements for ensuring Safe Scaffolding? If not, what bullet points should be added?
Looking forward to a positive response.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Attaching a few more photos of Unsafe Scaffolding... They may be useful to you for training purposes.
Can you please answer the following two questions:
1. What should be the ideal material for sole plates and base plates? Can we avoid the use of these and allow direct placement of pipes directly to the ground if they are sound and rigid?
2. I am attaching a Scaffold Checklist. Please go through it and provide your valuable feedback. Does this checklist cover the bare minimum requirements for ensuring Safe Scaffolding? If not, what bullet points should be added?
Looking forward to a positive response.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Dilip,
Thanks for the photographs. They reflect the current status of the scaffolding.
The law requires that no scaffold shall be erected, moved, dismantled, or altered except under the direct supervision of a competent person.
Tags for access scaffold more than 6 meters in height shall be signed off by a competent supervisor and an inspector. Up to 6 meters, it only needs to be signed by the supervisor.
Scaffolding is a specialization. I do not advise anyone to take up scaffolding work unless specifically trained for it.
Safety officers and engineers who have not undergone the required training and are not certified are not competent to erect and certify a scaffold.
In India, we have yet to take scaffolding seriously.
The checklist provided by Mr. Dilip is not sufficient.
When a checklist is provided, typically one will only check the listed items. Therefore, it should include every item requiring scrutiny. Remember, the worker's safety on a scaffold is ensured when a green tag is attached, starting from ground preparation to the tag. You can modify the checklist accordingly to include every item for safety requirements.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Thanks for the photographs. They reflect the current status of the scaffolding.
The law requires that no scaffold shall be erected, moved, dismantled, or altered except under the direct supervision of a competent person.
Tags for access scaffold more than 6 meters in height shall be signed off by a competent supervisor and an inspector. Up to 6 meters, it only needs to be signed by the supervisor.
Scaffolding is a specialization. I do not advise anyone to take up scaffolding work unless specifically trained for it.
Safety officers and engineers who have not undergone the required training and are not certified are not competent to erect and certify a scaffold.
In India, we have yet to take scaffolding seriously.
The checklist provided by Mr. Dilip is not sufficient.
When a checklist is provided, typically one will only check the listed items. Therefore, it should include every item requiring scrutiny. Remember, the worker's safety on a scaffold is ensured when a green tag is attached, starting from ground preparation to the tag. You can modify the checklist accordingly to include every item for safety requirements.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Dipil,
Thanks for your photos.
Dear Kesav,
Thanks for your valuable comment. Surely, it's helpful to us.
Dear Dipil,
Please find the attached Scaffolding Checklist. I hope it meets your requirements.
Thanks & Be safe,
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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Thanks for your photos.
Dear Kesav,
Thanks for your valuable comment. Surely, it's helpful to us.
Dear Dipil,
Please find the attached Scaffolding Checklist. I hope it meets your requirements.
Thanks & Be safe,
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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Dear all, Please see the attached checklist folder i hope its help to us. . . Wait for ur commends. . . Thanks & Besafe Raghu
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Dear Raghu,
Thanks for the checklist. I would like to create a checklist with the bare minimum mandatory requirements. I do not want to have a long list of checkpoints that nobody follows. I simply wish to make a smaller one and strictly implement it. However, I can add points from your checklist.
@ Keshav Pillai,
Sir, I am attaching a few more photos of the unsafe bases of scaffoldings. Please share with me if you have any photos showing the safe footing/base of scaffolding. How should it be? Can we allow the practices shown in the picture? I am awaiting your comments, please.
Dear all, please participate in the thread and let us make it a great reference for scaffolding construction.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Thanks for the checklist. I would like to create a checklist with the bare minimum mandatory requirements. I do not want to have a long list of checkpoints that nobody follows. I simply wish to make a smaller one and strictly implement it. However, I can add points from your checklist.
@ Keshav Pillai,
Sir, I am attaching a few more photos of the unsafe bases of scaffoldings. Please share with me if you have any photos showing the safe footing/base of scaffolding. How should it be? Can we allow the practices shown in the picture? I am awaiting your comments, please.
Dear all, please participate in the thread and let us make it a great reference for scaffolding construction.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Hello everybody,
I have been following this discussion. Very nice and educative.
This surely highlights the bad state of scaffolds. I was thinking about the reasons for this poor condition. I would like to share my thoughts with all.
Reasons for using non-standard scaffolds:
1. Lack of Knowledge -
Most construction workers are uneducated, having skills developed by working for years, starting as a helper to becoming a specialized mason, carpenter, etc. They just know how to do their job and are adept at working in hazardous conditions without complaining.
Also, most of the time, unskilled laborers are hired on a daily basis, and the same person may not turn up or may not be hired daily. Hence, training such an unorganized mass is not a very easy task.
2. "Sab chalta hai" attitude -
Most of the time, workers and even the supervisors don't take the extra effort to fabricate a perfect scaffold as it takes time and other resources. Instead, they use whatever material they have, saying they have worked like this for years and nothing has happened.
3. Lack of willpower of the management -
Since the management has its efforts focused on achieving the target at the earliest, and within the predefined budget (and certainly safety expenses are most of the time not considered while planning the budget of most of the projects), fabricating a standard scaffold is considered a waste of time and money.
4. Natural human tendency to adopt the shortcut -
But it should always be kept in mind that "a shortcut may hurt."
5. Much of the responsibility lies with the safety professionals -
The management is only able to see the tip of the iceberg. Certainly, we should try to bring into management's view the complete iceberg, and the cost of accidents should be calculated and highlighted after every accident investigation.
These points I think hold good for any unsafe practices as well as scaffolds, which is the focus of this discussion.
I hope this is in line with the discussion going on.
My best regards to all contributors.
Raman.
From India, Varanasi
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I have been following this discussion. Very nice and educative.
This surely highlights the bad state of scaffolds. I was thinking about the reasons for this poor condition. I would like to share my thoughts with all.
Reasons for using non-standard scaffolds:
1. Lack of Knowledge -
Most construction workers are uneducated, having skills developed by working for years, starting as a helper to becoming a specialized mason, carpenter, etc. They just know how to do their job and are adept at working in hazardous conditions without complaining.
Also, most of the time, unskilled laborers are hired on a daily basis, and the same person may not turn up or may not be hired daily. Hence, training such an unorganized mass is not a very easy task.
2. "Sab chalta hai" attitude -
Most of the time, workers and even the supervisors don't take the extra effort to fabricate a perfect scaffold as it takes time and other resources. Instead, they use whatever material they have, saying they have worked like this for years and nothing has happened.
3. Lack of willpower of the management -
Since the management has its efforts focused on achieving the target at the earliest, and within the predefined budget (and certainly safety expenses are most of the time not considered while planning the budget of most of the projects), fabricating a standard scaffold is considered a waste of time and money.
4. Natural human tendency to adopt the shortcut -
But it should always be kept in mind that "a shortcut may hurt."
5. Much of the responsibility lies with the safety professionals -
The management is only able to see the tip of the iceberg. Certainly, we should try to bring into management's view the complete iceberg, and the cost of accidents should be calculated and highlighted after every accident investigation.
These points I think hold good for any unsafe practices as well as scaffolds, which is the focus of this discussion.
I hope this is in line with the discussion going on.
My best regards to all contributors.
Raman.
From India, Varanasi
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Hello Everybody,
I am an Engineer working in SPCL. It was nice to see you all taking initiative and discussing good practices of scaffolds. It is really one of the least looked-after parts of the construction industry. Safety harnesses, PPEs, etc., are used for climbing and working on scaffolds, but no one is really bothered to check the stability of the scaffolding (casual approach). If the scaffold is not proper, there is no use of all the PPEs.
Anyways, my real point of discussion is that I want to know how we can analyze the frame structure of the scaffolds, the flow of load transfer, etc.
1) How can we calculate the load transferred to the scaffolds through inclined bracings (inclined in both vertical and horizontal planes)?
2) We are using the cuplock system at SPCL.
Regards,
Waiting for a reply
From India, Pune
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I am an Engineer working in SPCL. It was nice to see you all taking initiative and discussing good practices of scaffolds. It is really one of the least looked-after parts of the construction industry. Safety harnesses, PPEs, etc., are used for climbing and working on scaffolds, but no one is really bothered to check the stability of the scaffolding (casual approach). If the scaffold is not proper, there is no use of all the PPEs.
Anyways, my real point of discussion is that I want to know how we can analyze the frame structure of the scaffolds, the flow of load transfer, etc.
1) How can we calculate the load transferred to the scaffolds through inclined bracings (inclined in both vertical and horizontal planes)?
2) We are using the cuplock system at SPCL.
Regards,
Waiting for a reply
From India, Pune
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Dear Friends,
"It is a pathetic situation!
But why is it so?
To look at a scaffold - it is nothing! With matchsticks, children can make better skeletons. More or less, a scaffold looks like it, right?
Just a few years ago at Dubai airport, a scaffold failed, and the death toll was nearly 150. Scaffolding is not as simple as we think.
Scaffolding is a specialization. From ground preparation to the tag-off making of it, it must be supervised by a competent person.
"THE LAW REQUIRES THAT NO SCAFFOLD SHALL BE ERECTED, MOVED, DISMANTLED, OR ALTERED EXCEPT UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF A COMPETENT PERSON."
Not only the supervisor who supervises the scaffolding work, but also the inspector who inspects and puts a tag of acceptance, and the entire scaffolding crew must undergo training and certification.
If you are using a system scaffold like cuplock, the manufacturer provides you with the loading details.
Even access scaffolds more than 20 feet and special scaffolds shall be designed by a qualified structural engineer.
There is more to it.
For safety's sake, leave the scaffolding work only to trained scaffolders.
I am attaching a few questions.
Please, friends, try to answer those questions. We can learn together if really interested.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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"It is a pathetic situation!
But why is it so?
To look at a scaffold - it is nothing! With matchsticks, children can make better skeletons. More or less, a scaffold looks like it, right?
Just a few years ago at Dubai airport, a scaffold failed, and the death toll was nearly 150. Scaffolding is not as simple as we think.
Scaffolding is a specialization. From ground preparation to the tag-off making of it, it must be supervised by a competent person.
"THE LAW REQUIRES THAT NO SCAFFOLD SHALL BE ERECTED, MOVED, DISMANTLED, OR ALTERED EXCEPT UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF A COMPETENT PERSON."
Not only the supervisor who supervises the scaffolding work, but also the inspector who inspects and puts a tag of acceptance, and the entire scaffolding crew must undergo training and certification.
If you are using a system scaffold like cuplock, the manufacturer provides you with the loading details.
Even access scaffolds more than 20 feet and special scaffolds shall be designed by a qualified structural engineer.
There is more to it.
For safety's sake, leave the scaffolding work only to trained scaffolders.
I am attaching a few questions.
Please, friends, try to answer those questions. We can learn together if really interested.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Friends,
"If you work at a height above 6 feet, you should wear a safety harness!" This is a quote from a post by Mr. Reghuvaran Chakravarthy. Could you please confirm what type of safety harness can be worn just above 6 feet and the purpose it serves at that height?
We often unquestioningly follow what others, especially Americans, have written. It's time to start questioning and convincing ourselves before accepting things.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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"If you work at a height above 6 feet, you should wear a safety harness!" This is a quote from a post by Mr. Reghuvaran Chakravarthy. Could you please confirm what type of safety harness can be worn just above 6 feet and the purpose it serves at that height?
We often unquestioningly follow what others, especially Americans, have written. It's time to start questioning and convincing ourselves before accepting things.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Sir,
Once again, thank you for actively participating in the discussions. Please continue to share your expertise with us.
I am not entirely certain about the answers to the questions you have raised. Therefore, I will discuss them with a few civil engineers in my plant and provide my responses shortly.
Could you please clarify who the "COMPETENT PERSON" should be when it comes to scaffold inspection? Are there specific qualifications they must possess, or what criteria should they meet?
In our previous conversation about permits, you defined a Competent Person as follows. Is the same definition applicable in this context?
"For safety, a Competent Person is someone capable of identifying existing and foreseeable hazards in the environment or working conditions that may pose risks to employees. This individual must have the authority, responsibility, and accountability to promptly address and eliminate these hazards. The Competent Person typically oversees the operations of the department and can include supervisors, foremen, department heads, engineers, managers, and similar roles."
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Once again, thank you for actively participating in the discussions. Please continue to share your expertise with us.
I am not entirely certain about the answers to the questions you have raised. Therefore, I will discuss them with a few civil engineers in my plant and provide my responses shortly.
Could you please clarify who the "COMPETENT PERSON" should be when it comes to scaffold inspection? Are there specific qualifications they must possess, or what criteria should they meet?
In our previous conversation about permits, you defined a Competent Person as follows. Is the same definition applicable in this context?
"For safety, a Competent Person is someone capable of identifying existing and foreseeable hazards in the environment or working conditions that may pose risks to employees. This individual must have the authority, responsibility, and accountability to promptly address and eliminate these hazards. The Competent Person typically oversees the operations of the department and can include supervisors, foremen, department heads, engineers, managers, and similar roles."
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Dipil,
From your postings, I often find you quite enthusiastic about learning new things. Your queries are always appropriate. I am happy to take a few minutes to help clarify your doubts, although lately, time has been scarce for me due to my busy schedule.
The definition of a competent person will vary depending on the context in which the term is used.
When dealing with a hazard, competency entails the ability to identify the hazard and address it safely.
In the process of making a product, competency involves understanding the raw materials, equipment, personnel, environment, and processes required to achieve the best outcome.
A tea taster is competent in assessing the quality of different types of tea on his table.
To judge whether an omelet is good or bad, one must have sufficient competency, which is acquired through tasting various types at different establishments. Conversely, in order to cook a good omelet, a chef gains competency through repeated practice under the guidance of an experienced cook.
There are no strict rules regarding competency. In the realm of safety across different settings, the term is commonly used with variations in wording. Ultimately, the competency of an individual is defined in relation to achieving specific goals, which can be attained through qualifications, experience, expertise, or even authority.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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From your postings, I often find you quite enthusiastic about learning new things. Your queries are always appropriate. I am happy to take a few minutes to help clarify your doubts, although lately, time has been scarce for me due to my busy schedule.
The definition of a competent person will vary depending on the context in which the term is used.
When dealing with a hazard, competency entails the ability to identify the hazard and address it safely.
In the process of making a product, competency involves understanding the raw materials, equipment, personnel, environment, and processes required to achieve the best outcome.
A tea taster is competent in assessing the quality of different types of tea on his table.
To judge whether an omelet is good or bad, one must have sufficient competency, which is acquired through tasting various types at different establishments. Conversely, in order to cook a good omelet, a chef gains competency through repeated practice under the guidance of an experienced cook.
There are no strict rules regarding competency. In the realm of safety across different settings, the term is commonly used with variations in wording. Ultimately, the competency of an individual is defined in relation to achieving specific goals, which can be attained through qualifications, experience, expertise, or even authority.
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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@ Keshav Pillai
Dear Sir,
First of all, sorry for the late reply. Actually, I was a little bit busy and took time discussing the topic with others.
Let me try to answer the questions you have brought up for discussion:
1. The maximum (transverse) post spacing or base width for all types of scaffold must not be over:
Answer: 5 feet or 1.5 meters
2. A light-duty scaffold, with embossed tubes spaced transversely at 1.2 meters, must have its corresponding longitudinal spacing of standards (posts) at:
3. The difference between embossed and non-embossed tubes, with respect to standards spacing and structural capability, is that:
4. A light-duty scaffold, with non-embossed tubes spaced transversely at 1.0 meter, must have its standards spaced longitudinally at:
Answer: In all the above questions, the terms embossed and non-embossed are mentioned, which are new to me. Therefore, I discussed with two of our civil engineers regarding the same, but they also failed to explain the correct answers as well as what the terms embossed or non-embossed mean. I request you to explain these two terms.
5. For a light-duty scaffold, the maximum number of working levels that can be used or planked at the same time is:
Answer: Not more than one
I am looking forward to hearing the correct answers from your side with comments.
The explanations you provided regarding the Competent Person are perfect, and I think there are no simpler explanations for this term. Thank you very much for that.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Sir,
First of all, sorry for the late reply. Actually, I was a little bit busy and took time discussing the topic with others.
Let me try to answer the questions you have brought up for discussion:
1. The maximum (transverse) post spacing or base width for all types of scaffold must not be over:
Answer: 5 feet or 1.5 meters
2. A light-duty scaffold, with embossed tubes spaced transversely at 1.2 meters, must have its corresponding longitudinal spacing of standards (posts) at:
3. The difference between embossed and non-embossed tubes, with respect to standards spacing and structural capability, is that:
4. A light-duty scaffold, with non-embossed tubes spaced transversely at 1.0 meter, must have its standards spaced longitudinally at:
Answer: In all the above questions, the terms embossed and non-embossed are mentioned, which are new to me. Therefore, I discussed with two of our civil engineers regarding the same, but they also failed to explain the correct answers as well as what the terms embossed or non-embossed mean. I request you to explain these two terms.
5. For a light-duty scaffold, the maximum number of working levels that can be used or planked at the same time is:
Answer: Not more than one
I am looking forward to hearing the correct answers from your side with comments.
The explanations you provided regarding the Competent Person are perfect, and I think there are no simpler explanations for this term. Thank you very much for that.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Sir,
One more point from your posting:
"Kindly confirm as to what type of safety harness can be worn at just above 6 feet and what purpose it serves at that height, please?"
We have a standard procedure for work at height which spells out as below:
Working at heights
Elevated working positions (above 1.8 m or 6 feet) where the hazard of a fall exists and where there is no physical protection such as a platform with guardrails.
The typical examples of working at height are: Working from all types of ladders, scaffolds, mechanical lifts, inside confined spaces (silos), sloped roofs, areas where there are no overhead tie-off points.
It's also suggesting the use of a full-body harness with a double lanyard of 1.8M length each, out of which, one has to go to the fixed anchorage and another one for movement. So at any given point in time, one of the lanyards is always tied-off, providing tie-off 100% of the time.
We are suggesting using a safety harness above 1.8m. But ensuring to provide a safe anchorage point above at least 1m from 1.8m... This will prevent the person from reaching the ground in case of a fall...
If it's not suggestive to use a safety harness above 1.8m, then what height should it be? Please give your valuable comment...
I know that you may be quite busy hence not expecting a quick reply... Please send a reply whenever you get time... However, thanks a lot for finding out little time for us...
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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One more point from your posting:
"Kindly confirm as to what type of safety harness can be worn at just above 6 feet and what purpose it serves at that height, please?"
We have a standard procedure for work at height which spells out as below:
Working at heights
Elevated working positions (above 1.8 m or 6 feet) where the hazard of a fall exists and where there is no physical protection such as a platform with guardrails.
The typical examples of working at height are: Working from all types of ladders, scaffolds, mechanical lifts, inside confined spaces (silos), sloped roofs, areas where there are no overhead tie-off points.
It's also suggesting the use of a full-body harness with a double lanyard of 1.8M length each, out of which, one has to go to the fixed anchorage and another one for movement. So at any given point in time, one of the lanyards is always tied-off, providing tie-off 100% of the time.
We are suggesting using a safety harness above 1.8m. But ensuring to provide a safe anchorage point above at least 1m from 1.8m... This will prevent the person from reaching the ground in case of a fall...
If it's not suggestive to use a safety harness above 1.8m, then what height should it be? Please give your valuable comment...
I know that you may be quite busy hence not expecting a quick reply... Please send a reply whenever you get time... However, thanks a lot for finding out little time for us...
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear All Can anyone provide me Safe Work Procedure of Steel Tubular Scaffolding? Anyone if did JSA or any such type of Risk Assessment for Scaffolding please share with me? Regards, Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear dipil. . . Please find the attached AHA for Scaffolding i hope its help to u. . . Wait for ur commands. . . Thanks & Besafe Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Raghu,
Thank you for your AHA regarding fixed scaffolding. It's really good and helpful.
We are currently in the process of developing a Safe Work Procedure for scaffolding. I plan to use the AHA you provided as a reference document. Once the draft is ready, I will share it with the forum for comments.
Looking forward to more participation and discussions related to scaffolding.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Thank you for your AHA regarding fixed scaffolding. It's really good and helpful.
We are currently in the process of developing a Safe Work Procedure for scaffolding. I plan to use the AHA you provided as a reference document. Once the draft is ready, I will share it with the forum for comments.
Looking forward to more participation and discussions related to scaffolding.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear diplil, Its my pleasure to share. . . I was tried to post AHA word document but there is some error.If u need word document post ur mail ID i will send to u. . . Thanks & Besafe Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Reghuvaran Raghavan,
Good that you posted the AHA on scaffolding.
It clearly shows how serious we are with regard to following the set procedures. As I see, everything is there except the spirit with which the procedure is drawn.
Some of our experts have drawn certain procedures like safety audit, hazop analysis, JSA, AHA, etc., with the best of intentions. If we religiously follow these, we are sure to win against accidents. But unfortunately, we lack that understanding.
Nowadays, especially in construction – clients may ask for JSA, JHA, or AHA as the case may be. One may go on delaying it. In construction, time is important. Then the urgency clause comes in. They have to start the work. At any cost, delay will not be tolerated. Everybody is for safety, at least in lip service. Under the circumstances, everyone will urge to “get the AHA” and then only start the work. Finally, it is written.
AHA is received. Now who cares? Who scrutinizes it? How seriously? After starting the work, who bothers to check whether AHA is strictly adhered to or not?
Work will go on. The AHA will be in the file.
Who prepares an AHA?
Is he trained to do it?
Does he understand the spirit of preparing an AHA?
Though exemptions are there and it is safe with some of the safety officers who make it a point to master the trick, quite often it is not so. Management personnel think that a Safety Officer is a jack of all trades and will ask him to do it. He will attempt to prepare something…! I pity upon such Safety Officers who are forced to attempt it though not competent enough.
It can be seen from most JSA or AHA received that one has to understand the many terms used in safety like accident, injury, disease, danger, risk, hazard, energy, etc.
Analyze the proposed activity. Divide the activity into various steps sensibly. It need not be too elaborate but also not limited to two or three to combine so many major activities into one.
We can use additional columns if required. In the column – hazards, identify only hazards and nothing else. You may add, if desired, a column for possible accidents/results, etc.
Here the difference between Hazard, Danger, Accident, Result, etc., becomes so important.
Is it strictly the hazard that is mentioned in the column? Often it is not.
Recommendations - write only what is exactly needed. Remember to whom the recommendations are addressed.
Going through the AHA, really I am a little disappointed. We can do better with a little more pain.
Good wishes,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Good that you posted the AHA on scaffolding.
It clearly shows how serious we are with regard to following the set procedures. As I see, everything is there except the spirit with which the procedure is drawn.
Some of our experts have drawn certain procedures like safety audit, hazop analysis, JSA, AHA, etc., with the best of intentions. If we religiously follow these, we are sure to win against accidents. But unfortunately, we lack that understanding.
Nowadays, especially in construction – clients may ask for JSA, JHA, or AHA as the case may be. One may go on delaying it. In construction, time is important. Then the urgency clause comes in. They have to start the work. At any cost, delay will not be tolerated. Everybody is for safety, at least in lip service. Under the circumstances, everyone will urge to “get the AHA” and then only start the work. Finally, it is written.
AHA is received. Now who cares? Who scrutinizes it? How seriously? After starting the work, who bothers to check whether AHA is strictly adhered to or not?
Work will go on. The AHA will be in the file.
Who prepares an AHA?
Is he trained to do it?
Does he understand the spirit of preparing an AHA?
Though exemptions are there and it is safe with some of the safety officers who make it a point to master the trick, quite often it is not so. Management personnel think that a Safety Officer is a jack of all trades and will ask him to do it. He will attempt to prepare something…! I pity upon such Safety Officers who are forced to attempt it though not competent enough.
It can be seen from most JSA or AHA received that one has to understand the many terms used in safety like accident, injury, disease, danger, risk, hazard, energy, etc.
Analyze the proposed activity. Divide the activity into various steps sensibly. It need not be too elaborate but also not limited to two or three to combine so many major activities into one.
We can use additional columns if required. In the column – hazards, identify only hazards and nothing else. You may add, if desired, a column for possible accidents/results, etc.
Here the difference between Hazard, Danger, Accident, Result, etc., becomes so important.
Is it strictly the hazard that is mentioned in the column? Often it is not.
Recommendations - write only what is exactly needed. Remember to whom the recommendations are addressed.
Going through the AHA, really I am a little disappointed. We can do better with a little more pain.
Good wishes,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Kesav,
First, I say thanks for your consideration, sir.
As per your previous reply, you mentioned:
"Nowadays, especially in construction, clients may ask for JSA, JHA, or AHA as the case may be. One may go on delaying it. In construction, time is important. Then the urgency clause comes in. They have to start the work. At any cost, delay will not be tolerated. Everybody is for safety, at least in lip service. Under the circumstances, everyone will urge to 'get the AHA' and then only start the work. Finally, it is written.
AHA is received. Now who cares? Who scrutinizes it? How seriously? After starting the work, who bothers to check whether AHA is strictly adhered to or not?
Work will go on. The AHA will be in the file.
Who prepares an AHA?
Is he trained to do it?
Does he understand the spirit of preparing an AHA?
Yes, you are right, sir. When I am working in India, I do not prepare/submit JSA, JHA, or AHA because my client side didn't ask, they didn't care about safety. They operate me like a doll. (I am not saying all over India, some places/some projects/some companies (construction) it happens.)
But here overseas, we follow the rules, especially US Corps of Engineering jobs. We follow the rules and regulations. Compared to my previous projects, now it is the best.
In my site, whenever we start work, at least one week before, the project engineer/superintendent prepares a work plan and sends it to safety/me. Then safety/myself analyze the hazards on the work plan, and then we start to prepare AHA for all jobs. We send that AHA to our client's safety manager for approval. Once they approve, we conduct a prefatory meeting, especially for those involved in the job. This is the process.
In my previous site, due to our schedule, without my knowledge and AHA, they started painting work. I asked/raised questions to my site supervisor; he simply said, 'go and talk to the manager.' I asked the manager; he simply said, 'don't make an issue, don't stop the work, now you prepare the AHA.' I couldn't do anything at that time due to the work schedule.
The safety officer is responsible for preparing the AHA. If he is not experienced, the project manager has to prepare the AHA.
The format for AHA was issued by US Corps of Engineering; we can't modify that one, sir. Because worldwide Corps of Engineering jobs use the same format. (As per your comment, we added one column for possible accidents/results. I am sure it gives good results, but we can't. I am playing on the US Corps of Engineering's field, sir.)
Thanks & Besafe,
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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First, I say thanks for your consideration, sir.
As per your previous reply, you mentioned:
"Nowadays, especially in construction, clients may ask for JSA, JHA, or AHA as the case may be. One may go on delaying it. In construction, time is important. Then the urgency clause comes in. They have to start the work. At any cost, delay will not be tolerated. Everybody is for safety, at least in lip service. Under the circumstances, everyone will urge to 'get the AHA' and then only start the work. Finally, it is written.
AHA is received. Now who cares? Who scrutinizes it? How seriously? After starting the work, who bothers to check whether AHA is strictly adhered to or not?
Work will go on. The AHA will be in the file.
Who prepares an AHA?
Is he trained to do it?
Does he understand the spirit of preparing an AHA?
Yes, you are right, sir. When I am working in India, I do not prepare/submit JSA, JHA, or AHA because my client side didn't ask, they didn't care about safety. They operate me like a doll. (I am not saying all over India, some places/some projects/some companies (construction) it happens.)
But here overseas, we follow the rules, especially US Corps of Engineering jobs. We follow the rules and regulations. Compared to my previous projects, now it is the best.
In my site, whenever we start work, at least one week before, the project engineer/superintendent prepares a work plan and sends it to safety/me. Then safety/myself analyze the hazards on the work plan, and then we start to prepare AHA for all jobs. We send that AHA to our client's safety manager for approval. Once they approve, we conduct a prefatory meeting, especially for those involved in the job. This is the process.
In my previous site, due to our schedule, without my knowledge and AHA, they started painting work. I asked/raised questions to my site supervisor; he simply said, 'go and talk to the manager.' I asked the manager; he simply said, 'don't make an issue, don't stop the work, now you prepare the AHA.' I couldn't do anything at that time due to the work schedule.
The safety officer is responsible for preparing the AHA. If he is not experienced, the project manager has to prepare the AHA.
The format for AHA was issued by US Corps of Engineering; we can't modify that one, sir. Because worldwide Corps of Engineering jobs use the same format. (As per your comment, we added one column for possible accidents/results. I am sure it gives good results, but we can't. I am playing on the US Corps of Engineering's field, sir.)
Thanks & Besafe,
Raghu
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Raghu,
It is satisfying to see that you take my notes seriously. I write all these only to stimulate interest in the subject among the youngsters.
Even with all the stringent rules and regulations, safety standards at the workplace have to improve a lot. I cannot blame the top executives. Modern management personnel are not like those of the nineteen-sixties. Now, we get well-educated professionals as executives who understand the implications.
When I point my index fingers to others, I realize that three of my fingers are pointed towards me. Upon rechecking, I realize that we have to blame only safety personnel for the continuing weakness in safety performance. Often, they are acting like puppets in front of executives instead of presenting safety recommendations and requirements without fear of reprimand.
Let us do our might as professionals. (Also kindly check whether it is prefatory meeting or preparatory meeting)
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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It is satisfying to see that you take my notes seriously. I write all these only to stimulate interest in the subject among the youngsters.
Even with all the stringent rules and regulations, safety standards at the workplace have to improve a lot. I cannot blame the top executives. Modern management personnel are not like those of the nineteen-sixties. Now, we get well-educated professionals as executives who understand the implications.
When I point my index fingers to others, I realize that three of my fingers are pointed towards me. Upon rechecking, I realize that we have to blame only safety personnel for the continuing weakness in safety performance. Often, they are acting like puppets in front of executives instead of presenting safety recommendations and requirements without fear of reprimand.
Let us do our might as professionals. (Also kindly check whether it is prefatory meeting or preparatory meeting)
Regards,
Kesava Pillai
From India, Kollam
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Dear Kesav Sir & Raghu Thanks for very informative discussion... It was really interesting one and really contains the spirit of group discussion... Regards, Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear All,
I am attaching one file containing the unsafe scaffolding photos with the explanation of the unsafe condition. This may be useful for training/study purposes.
Keep on sharing your expertise, please.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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I am attaching one file containing the unsafe scaffolding photos with the explanation of the unsafe condition. This may be useful for training/study purposes.
Keep on sharing your expertise, please.
Regards,
Dipil Kumar V
From India
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Dear Kesava Pillai Sir,
For a long time, I have been trying to find the answer to a small doubt that arose in my mind from the scaffold questionnaire you posted. However, I have now come to understand the following:
Embossed means the metal is of commercial grade or strength, as stamped or certified by an engineer. Nonembossed refers to something we buy from a local hardware store, dealer, or make on-site. On embossed pipes, we can see markings for the following things in each one meter:
1. IS Marking
2. Heavy, Medium, or Light Duty
3. Manufacturer's name.
Thank you very much for prompting me to think about this and helping me learn something new. If I have mentioned anything incorrectly above, please correct me. I hope you will continue to support the forum with your valuable insights.
Dear Friends,
"It is a pathetic situation! But why is it so? To look at a scaffold - it is nothing! With matchsticks, children can make better skeletons. More or less, a scaffold looks like it, right? Just a few years ago in Dubai airport, a scaffold failed, leading to nearly 150 deaths. Scaffolding is not as simple as we may think.
Scaffolding is a specialization. From ground preparation to the tag-off, it must be supervised by a competent person. "THE LAW REQUIRES THAT NO SCAFFOLD SHALL BE ERECTED, MOVED, DISMANTLED, OR ALTERED EXCEPT UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF A COMPETENT PERSON."
Not only the supervisor who oversees the scaffolding work, but also the inspector who inspects and approves, along with the entire scaffolding crew, must undergo training and certification. If you are using a system scaffold like cuplock, the manufacturer provides loading details. Even access scaffold over 20 feet and special scaffolds must be designed by a qualified structural engineer. There is more to it.
For safety's sake, leave the scaffolding work only to trained scaffolders. I am attaching a few questions. Please, friends, try to answer those questions. We can learn together if truly interested.
Regards, Kesava Pillai
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For a long time, I have been trying to find the answer to a small doubt that arose in my mind from the scaffold questionnaire you posted. However, I have now come to understand the following:
Embossed means the metal is of commercial grade or strength, as stamped or certified by an engineer. Nonembossed refers to something we buy from a local hardware store, dealer, or make on-site. On embossed pipes, we can see markings for the following things in each one meter:
1. IS Marking
2. Heavy, Medium, or Light Duty
3. Manufacturer's name.
Thank you very much for prompting me to think about this and helping me learn something new. If I have mentioned anything incorrectly above, please correct me. I hope you will continue to support the forum with your valuable insights.
Dear Friends,
"It is a pathetic situation! But why is it so? To look at a scaffold - it is nothing! With matchsticks, children can make better skeletons. More or less, a scaffold looks like it, right? Just a few years ago in Dubai airport, a scaffold failed, leading to nearly 150 deaths. Scaffolding is not as simple as we may think.
Scaffolding is a specialization. From ground preparation to the tag-off, it must be supervised by a competent person. "THE LAW REQUIRES THAT NO SCAFFOLD SHALL BE ERECTED, MOVED, DISMANTLED, OR ALTERED EXCEPT UNDER THE DIRECT SUPERVISION OF A COMPETENT PERSON."
Not only the supervisor who oversees the scaffolding work, but also the inspector who inspects and approves, along with the entire scaffolding crew, must undergo training and certification. If you are using a system scaffold like cuplock, the manufacturer provides loading details. Even access scaffold over 20 feet and special scaffolds must be designed by a qualified structural engineer. There is more to it.
For safety's sake, leave the scaffolding work only to trained scaffolders. I am attaching a few questions. Please, friends, try to answer those questions. We can learn together if truly interested.
Regards, Kesava Pillai
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I would like to know more details about Question No. 06A. How can we calculate the capacity of scaffolding used for slab and beam? We can easily calculate the load of the slab and scaffold materials by multiplying it by 4, but how can we determine the capacity of the scaffold? If you have any formula, please let me know.
Regards,
Manish Kumar Rai
HSE Officer, Saudi Arabia.
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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Regards,
Manish Kumar Rai
HSE Officer, Saudi Arabia.
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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