Why Are Part-Time or Distance MBA Graduates Overlooked in HR Hiring? Seeking Your Thoughts

Dear all,

I have a query for all CiteHR members, and I believe it's becoming increasingly serious day by day. In most organizations, especially during HR hiring processes, the basic requirement is that a person should have an MBA-HR from a reputable institute. I understand this. Many organizations specifically prefer candidates with an MBA from a full-time course, and I also understand this preference. However, if a person excels in all areas and is suitable for an HR position, but has completed their MBA through a part-time or distance learning program, they are immediately rejected. Why is this the case? Is it because they do not meet the criteria? If these are the criteria for selection, then why are such courses approved in the first place?

I fail to comprehend why an excellent candidate is not given the opportunity solely based on the mode of completing their MBA. To me, this seems unfounded.

Please share your opinions on this matter.

Dear Joe,

It is true that top companies prefer those with a full-time degree in management. However, based on my industry experience, middle-level companies often consider part-timers and distance learning mode candidates, although they do require some level of work experience. You can start with a mid-sized company, and once you gain 2 to 3 years of experience in the HR field, this constraint will no longer be an issue. There is no need to feel disappointed.

Dr. Peeyush Khare

Dear Dr. Khare,

Thank you for your valuable suggestion. However, I have almost seven years of experience in HR and have been working with one of the reputed organizations. This incident happened with one of my colleagues, who also has good experience in HR. I was shocked to hear about this, so I really wanted to understand why companies prefer only full-time courses when part-time courses are introduced.

Please let me know if you need any further information.

Thank you.

[Your Name]

Hi Joe,

I agree with you. Even I have also done MBA in HR through DLP and have 2 years of experience in HR with a Broking Organization, but I am facing the same problem. Yes, you are right, if these courses are not valued much, then there is no need to introduce those courses.

Regards,
Archana

Hi Archana,

I agree with you, but now most of the companies have started recruiting people with DL MBA in HR as there is a shortage of skilled individuals. However, there may be challenges in the initial stages with DL courses.

Keep posting your views, friends.

Swati

Dear All,

This is a serious concern. I have 2.5 years of experience in HR and am pursuing my MBA through DLP. During these 2.5 years, I have experienced the same problem, but honestly speaking, it is not necessary that those who have completed a regular MBA have better knowledge than DLP graduates. Experience is what matters most, and good organizations should understand this.

I would also say that BBA graduates with 1-2 years of experience in HR are equally competitive to an MBA-HR with 1-2 years of experience.

Regards,
Gitika

Hi Joe,

Whatever course you take and whatever marks you score, hold no weight in comparison to your performance in the HR interview. Yes, there may be initial hiccups, but you don't have to be discouraged by this so early.

I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards

Yes, this is a problem area, but in the end, what counts most is your background and experience in the relevant area. The company is looking for...

Manoj K Sharma

Dear Joe,

I had the same query as well. I have 8 years of experience, but the institution I joined for pursuing my MBA is not very reputed (NIBM Chennai). I am also wondering whether it will have any effect on my future job prospects.

Regards,

This issue is one of perception. Surely the guy who holds a job down and gets an MBA is demonstrating his ability to work hard under very trying and protracted conditions? If the companies that you are applying to cannot see this, then they are not worthy of having you as employees. It is their loss.

Joe,

Your disappointment is genuine and justified. However, in the long run, you will have the opportunity to prove yourself in senior positions as well, provided you make use of the HR exposure which you are getting now. People do reject part-time MBAs because most of the time they do not find them competent. They generalize a situation which need not be generalized because some part-time MBAs are no less competent. However, these individuals have to prove their competence on the ground. Meanwhile, develop your skill set, demonstrate it in discussions, and you will have your chance.

Col Virendra

Hi Joe,

You are misunderstanding here. Yes, the organizations do prefer HR-MBAs/PGs, but it's not a mandate. If a person can prove himself/herself as an excellent HR professional at the time of an interview, then the qualification aspect can be easily ignored. The same applies in the case of IT industries. Yes, organizations are keen on hiring IITians/B.Techs from reputed universities, but if a candidate demonstrates exceptional knowledge and experience during the interview, the qualification aspect can be easily overlooked.

So, the crux is that you just need to be excellent in whatever you do and the knowledge you carry :)

Hi Joe,

I agree that some companies prefer full-time MBA to a part-time or diploma holder. This is because they feel that the part-timer or diploma holder does not have the relevant knowledge or experience. In many colleges, these courses are not on par with the full-time curriculum. But don't lose hope. We can cover this up by taking relevant job experience from a small-sized company.

Good luck to you.

Regards,
Priya

Dear all,

I think experience should matter, and whether someone has an MBA or not should not be the deciding factor.

One question: Is a Postgraduate Diploma in HR the same as an MBA in HR? If not, how valuable is it?

Thank you.

Dear All,

As a matter of fact, DLP MBA in HR is offered, but why are these made available? To enhance our skill levels. However, I don't understand why DLP programs are not given weightage by top companies, even if you have the required experience level and perhaps can deliver more than a regular MBA candidate. A BIG QUESTION MARK to the companies that don't scale up candidates according to their performance or experience levels. There has to be some solution in this regard.

Either the content of the DLP MBA materials needs to be improved or the way/pattern of delivery (which is not considered as serious a study as in regular courses).

Thank you.

Joe,

It's nice to have a very relevant issue being brought up here. I have friends in consulting organizations, and we see a clear distinction here. Most companies, if not all, specify that they want full-time MBA graduates for their HR positions, irrespective of the years of experience they are looking at.

Though mid-sized companies do not differentiate, this cannot be generalized for all. There is certainly a mindset that part-time courses and DLPs do not guarantee a knowledge base as good as the one a full-timer brings to the table.

Regards,
Krithika

Dear All,

I agree with his views; it happened with me also. I got a chance to do a full-time MAHR/MBA-HR from a UK and an Indian university too, but due to some personal reasons, I could not pursue it. Therefore, I opted for a DLP course in HR. I am facing similar problems. While the organization is meant to be an equal opportunity employer, the reality is different. I have mentioned this issue earlier as well. It has become a serious concern as to why universities and institutes introduce such DLP courses in HR. People encounter situations in their lives where they are unable to continue their education. India is a developing country, and individuals are not always financially capable of continuing their higher studies. They do not even receive funding from the government.

I believe companies should not be so rigid and should have flexibility in hiring HR professionals.

Regards,
Gauri

Dear All,

I agree with his views; it happened with me as well. I had the opportunity to pursue a full-time MAHR/MBA-HR from both a UK and an Indian university. However, due to some personal reasons, I could not proceed with it, so I opted for a DLP course in HR. I am facing similar challenges. While organizations claim to be equal opportunity employers, the reality is often different. As I have mentioned before, it is increasingly concerning why universities and institutes introduce such DLP courses in HR. People encounter situations in their lives where continuing education becomes difficult. India, being a developing country, not everyone can afford to pursue higher studies without government funding.

I believe companies should not be so rigid and should have flexibility when hiring HR professionals.

Regards,
Gauri

I have around 1 year of experience, and I am currently working. I have not yet completed my MBA but have just enrolled for the same through distance learning. Should I go for the same or drop it and look for a regular MBA? Dropping would again absorb another 3 years of mine. Please guide.

Friends,

I agree that some organizations hire people with regular MBA qualifications. However, I have a slightly different experience. I have completed my MBA (a three-year DL program) from a reputable institute and studied as hard as a regular student should. About a year ago, I changed my job and was selected by an international NGO. Upon joining, I discovered that most of the other candidates competing for this position had regular MBA/PGDM backgrounds. It gave me great satisfaction to realize that part-time or DL programs are equally effective.

However, now when I search for a job for myself, I notice that most corporations prefer regular MBAs only. It is difficult to understand why these organizations cannot comprehend that, depending on individual competencies, a candidate with a part-time/DL background can be even more effective than a regular MBA.

Surendra Singh

Dear all,

One of my cousins is an HR Manager for Payroll. He has completed his MBA through DLP. Initially, he worked in a mid-level company for 3-4 years and then transitioned to an MNC. Therefore, some reputable organizations hire candidates for HR positions based on their knowledge and experience, regardless of whether they obtained their MBA through DLP.

However, it is important to note that these organizations typically recruit such candidates through references. What happens if someone does not have anyone to refer them?

Kindly provide your suggestions on this matter!

Thank you.

Dear All,

I have 2 years of BPO experience and have been working in HR for the last 4 months. I have also started pursuing an MBA in HR from Symbiosis through Distance Learning. I believe that obtaining a full-time degree may not provide as much practical experience in the field. By studying for an MBA through distance learning while simultaneously working in the same field, one has the opportunity to apply theoretical knowledge in real-world scenarios.

However, I have noticed that many companies prefer candidates who have completed their MBA from reputable institutions. In my opinion, companies should value both experience and practical knowledge rather than solely academic achievements.

Hi, I am currently working and have just enrolled in an MBA program through distance learning. I am considering whether to drop this program and pursue a regular MBA or continue with the current setup, considering that I would need to invest another 2 to 3 years for a traditional MBA.

Hi Joe!

I completed my MBA in Human Resources on a full-time basis, but I did not secure the right opportunity in the initial stages. For two years, I worked as an HR faculty. Now, I have obtained a job in the HR market. It's all about timing. I believe that time is more crucial than experience and certificates we possess.

- Haritha

It's sad but true -- a part-time MBA just does not command the same status as a full-time one in this country. A host of extremely respected institutes offer one-, two- and three-year part-time MBA diplomas and degrees. Yet, the students who opt for these courses do not emerge with the same halo as those who take up the two-year full-time post-graduate programmes.

The first cruel fact you have to accept if you're thinking of a part-time MBA is this: it is unlikely to swiftly and painlessly enhance your immediate job prospects. There is no lucrative placement offer waiting for you, like the proverbial 'pot of gold 'at the end of the rainbow. And this is true, even at the brand name institutes.

The B-schools justify the lack of placement opportunities by pointing out that those pursuing the part-time MBA already have jobs. In fact, the pre-requisite for practically all part-time MBA courses is two-three years of work experience, preferably in an executive or supervisory capacity. Part-time MBAs are thus positioned as career-enhancement programmes designed to make the participant more effective in his or her current organization.

The truth, however, is that the individual who chooses to do the part-time MBA is essentially seeking better prospects. 'Better' may variously defined as a shift from a smaller company to a larger one, or from software to marketing. Essentially, there is a sense of stagnation in the current workplace/ job function and an MBA appears to be the 'way out'.

The candidate is hoping that with the part-time MBA he gets to have his cake and eat it too. Instead of enrolling for a full-time course and forgoing two years of salary, (as well as shelling out at least Rs 4-5 lakhs as fees), why not do a part-time MBA? Especially when most institutes claim it is equivalent to the regular MBA in terms of coverage and curriculum. Well, the logic is impeccable but things don't quite work that way.

That's not to say a part-time program adds no value. But do be realistic. You are never really going to be considered 'at par' with the full-time grads so don't expect investment banks or the Hindustan Levers of the world to welcome you on board because you've got FMS or JBIMS on your resume. The unstated assumption you will encounter: 'Only folks who couldn't make it to the (more competitive) full-time MBA join the part-time course.'

The 'children of a lesser God' theory may also manifest itself at alumni meets. It's a different thing that any Indian who attends even a one-month program at Harvard refers to himself as a Harvard 'graduate' on his biodata!

Personally, I think that if companies actually picked up part-timers they might find them to be more dedicated and a lot more street smart than regular MBA graduates. And be pleasantly surprised by the absence of 'we are the cat's whiskers' vibes. But, until they start taking that chance, the part-timer will have to view the MBA primarily as a stepping stone in the quest for self-development. And the pursuit of knowledge.

Regards,

Nawas

Dear Joe,

You can not only secure jobs with a part-time MBA in HR but also advance through promotions if you excel and prove your capabilities. The key is to stay updated on HR practices and industry knowledge in your field. You may encounter situations where initially you earn less than those with full-time MBAs from prestigious colleges, but if you demonstrate your potential, nothing can hinder your growth, even with a part-time or distance learning MBA. I can attest to this from personal experience.

All the best and perform well.

Warm regards,
Deepti

I am currently pursuing an HR (DLP) through a reputed institute in Mumbai. However, in interviews, I've been a victim of this bias - full-time MBA's getting the post, holding no weight of water! I think the managements must realize that mere paper degrees don't make a good manager. But I appreciate that people like you all are there to notice this and probably will bring about change!

Yes, this is a problem area, but in the end, what counts most is your background, experience in the relevant area, and your performance in the interview. Currently, nobody is willing to lose a potential candidate due to a shortage of qualified individuals for the specified job.

Well friends,

It's a really interesting situation. I just finished my MBA in HR. When I went for job searching, I found that middle-level companies prefer people with work experience in administration along with a DLP degree rather than just a full-time MBA course. Few companies may have different policies. However, what I feel is that you are on the right track, and after an experience of more than 3 or 4 years, degrees and certificates really do not play a significant role in the corporate world. Only experience and common sense help. Great luck ahead.

Hi,

I guess what matters is how you portray yourself before the panel. If they feel you are good, they will take you on board; one case ought not be a deterrent.

Regards

Hi,

You all made me confused. I did BBA, and after that, I came to know that additional qualification is a must to get the best job. So, I did DBM from Welingkar Mumbai (Part-time), but during my interview with one company, I was told they need an MBA in HR. Consequently, I joined IIMM-Pune for a DLP MBA in PM & HR, and now I am in the 3rd semester.

However, I have now learned through you guys that an MBA in HR through DLP does not work and is ignored by companies. I have 5 years of experience in the HRD Dept. I think I have wasted my time and money.

Sunil

It is an important thing brought to notice. Many thanks for the same, Joe.

I have had similar experiences too. After my degree, I have done my MBA through DLP as well and have lost some deserving opportunities because of the prejudice against DLP MBAs.

We as professionals should keep in mind not to discriminate based on the mode of the course, that's agreed upon. But apart from that, what could be the potential solution to this discrimination?

Hi all,

Agreed, that once you have relevant experience of 2-3 years in HR, it does not matter too much if you did your MBA full-time or part-time (DLP); or even if you have a DLP PG Diploma in HR (as I do). However, some companies have made this a mandate (a must-have eligibility criterion) that they would consider a person for an interview only if he/she has done it full-time. They are so hell-bent upon this criterion that even if a guy has 8 years of experience and is working in some other top-notch company, they (the company in question) would simply not consider him for the interview. Fortunately, not every top-notch company has this narrow-minded approach.

I myself have gotten into a global giant in the IT field as an HR Trainee, even though I did my PG in HR through Symbiosis. Inshallah, I would continue to work in good companies. As I said: not every top company has this criterion so all we DLP people have hope after all 🌟.

Cheers!
Brandon

An MBA isn't something that can be gained through a series of assignments or some theoretical concepts; it sure does have to mold and shape someone into a better personality altogether! There lies the true essence of an MBA. Period.

No wonder MNCs hunt MBA grads from a regular school rather than someone from a part-time or DLP program. Nevertheless, true talent will always be appreciated and absorbed. So, if you know for sure you are a great HR person and a few corporations fail to recognize your talent, consider them the losers, not you! Chill :-P

Dear Joe,

This is true. One of my colleagues faced the same problem even after good experience. I think hands-on experience is much more important than just doing a regular MBA.

Thank you.

Dear Members,

After reading this topic and your views, I have gone into a dilemma. I have 7 years of legal experience and am interested in pursuing a distance learning MBA program in HR. I was going to ask which institute (Symbiosis or ICFAI) is better for a distance learning MBA program, but after reading the views, I need to be careful before choosing a program. How does an Executive MBA compare to a distance learning MBA and a regular MBA? I would appreciate it if you could help me out with this.

Thank you.

Undoubtedly, a deserving talented individual needs to have a chance, albeit the mode of education. Regarding discussions earlier like "why were part-time courses introduced!?", it is the gap between the industry and academia and the ignorance of policymakers in the government that has led to the introduction of courses without a purpose.

A recent survey by ASSOCHAM states that except for the top 30 B-schools, all other institutions are not aware of the basics of the national economy and GDP. Not all MBA aspirants get into the top 30 B-schools. In that case, the aspirant settles for part-time courses. Unfortunately, institutions that are supposed to teach business are doing business with education.

Overall, there needs to be a change in the system and policies which is obviously not in our hands.

Hi Joe,

What you said is a bare fact! I face the same problem regularly. I tell you HR & Admin job requires the 'specific skill' degree (i.e., MBA) and experience as well. I guess a guy having 2 years of work experience along with his DL MBA degree is equivalent to a normal MBA without any work experience. It's the 'sincerity' and 'scalability' of a candidate towards his work that really matters while selecting an HR candidate.

Thanks,
Saptarshi Dasgupta

Dear Joe,

This has also happened in my career. Some industries rejected me due to my pursuit of a full-time course. However, medium-sized industries typically accept part-time and DLP qualifiers, often placing a strong emphasis on experience. So, don't worry. Please consider focusing on medium-sized industries.

Thanks & Regards,

K. Packiarajan
Email: pakiyarajank@hotmail.com

Hands-on experience from a reputed organization is appreciated by most companies. However, it is always an add-on to have a full-time degree. It is passion, talent, creativity, innovation, and hard work that are required to be an HR professional. If you have these qualities in you, then the degree doesn't matter, whether it is full time, part time, or through distance learning.

My two cents!!!

Hi friends,

I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to Joe for bringing up this issue. After considering the perspectives shared by my citehr friends, I find myself in a state of significant confusion. I had plans to enroll in a Part-time MBA program at ICFAI institute, which is set to commence very soon. Now, I am unsure whether I should proceed with it. If companies are not actively seeking out candidates with a Part-time MBA, I am inclined to prioritize gaining work experience over investing a substantial amount of money in pursuing a part-time MBA.

Therefore, I seek your valuable suggestions, dear friends, as the admission deadlines are fast approaching. Your input would be highly appreciated.

Hi Joe,

I agree with you to some extent, but on the other hand, people from different streams are also finding it difficult to get entry into good organizations, even though they have full-time degrees.

In my opinion, what really matters is potential. If you have the caliber and potential, you will definitely get the job.

Best of luck.

Regards,
Kishor Manori

Guys,

I completely agree with you. I too started without any degree but then decided to go for a DLP. I found it very difficult to find a job in a decent company. As for now, I am in a much better position after struggling for 2 years. And you won't believe, but I have seen people without a full degree doing a very good job, working hard in comparison to the full-time HRs. They want to work from scratch and so get an assistant on a contract basis... and literally slog them. Believe me, I have seen that at several places and felt bad to see that.

Regards,
Anu

Dear Members,

After reading this topic and your views, I have gone into a dilemma. I have 7 years of legal experience and am interested in pursuing a distance learning MBA program in HR. I was about to ask which institute (Symbiosis or ICFAI) is better for a distance learning MBA program, but after reading your views, I realize I need to be cautious before choosing a program. How does an Executive MBA compare to distance learning and regular MBAs? I would appreciate your help with this decision.

Dear Concern,

An EMBA holds more value than a DLP.
For details about the EMBA offered by Manipal University, please visit www.corporateprograms.manipal.edu.

Regards,

I am very shocked because I have just joined MBA - HR in DLP from MK University. Please suggest to me what to do...

Dear Dr. Khare,

Thanks for your valuable suggestion. However, I have almost seven years of experience in HR and have been working with one of the reputed organizations. This incident happened to one of my colleagues, who also has good experience in HR. I was shocked to hear about this, and I really want to understand why companies prefer only full-time courses when part-time courses are also introduced.

Dear Joe,

Part-time courses are also valid. During the initial phase, one may encounter some problems, but if you have rich experience in a reputed organization, there should be no issue at all.

Thanks, Ajay Verma

Yes, you are right. I also faced the same problem in the initial years of my career. However, after 2-3 years of working experience in the relevant field, this barrier will dissolve automatically.

Sanjib Datta

Hello all,

This might be the case with top companies, but as one gains experience, they can overcome this constraint. This is my opinion.

Keep trying. You know what you have within you.

Regards,
Shweta Swarnkar

Yeah, Joy, it makes sense, and most of the companies are worried about the educational background, i.e., full-time HR. With no offense to the MBA full-time grads, I have come across more people who are talented and possess skills to perform better in HR or any other field but don't meet the required "educational criteria."

Why are we still in a hiring mode that is not skill-based but just education-based?

Roshni P. Kumar

Hi,

I think it depends on sector-to-sector. I'm working in a manufacturing concern, and they prefer people holding a Diploma. But it's true that a full-time course carries weightage.

Thanks to all for giving their suggestions. It's really awakening.

Regards,
Kanupriya

Hi,

I believe that experience and knowledge make a difference after a period of 2-3 years. Therefore, at the initial stage, our aim should be to gather experience and good process knowledge without worrying about salary or the size of the organization.

Thanks,
Voilet

Dear Joe,

The information which you had given is 100% true. Even in many companies, they recruit only full-time MBA candidates. But I don't know why there is a problem with DSL & PT in recruiting. They are not giving more importance to the work, only to the MBA degree. I don't think we will find a solution for this. Only management has to think...

Regards,
Viji

Hi All,

It is indeed a sad thing that companies do not think much of candidates who pursue their education part-time or through distance learning programs (DLP), and hence, do not give them an opportunity to prove themselves. I hope companies will realize the potential of this niche group (niche, I say because these candidates are the ones who have actually gone through the grind of working and acquiring a degree/post-degree at the same time) and hire them in the future.

I have been a victim of this too, where I received calls from agencies for openings in Fortune 100 companies and was told I could not be considered because I am a part-timer and not a full-timer. Well, all I will say here is, rather than feeling self-pity or let down by this, let's pull our socks up and do our best. There will come a time when there will be a demand for part-timers like us.

Cheers,
Richa

I agree to it. It is difficult for a DLP or a part-timer to enter a big organization at the start, but after gaining some experience of 2-3 years, it's not that difficult. The reason for such a criteria is that people from full-time get more exposed to all the areas of HR than DLP and part-time. Considering that they do not have much experience, they prefer people who have good knowledge.

So don't worry...work with a small or mid-size company for a few years...and then you can get into it... Cheers... Sneha

Hey Joe, the thing is part-time courses are actually introduced for people with work experience. It is an additional qualification for them, just to add an extra feather to their cap. It is such that if a person has no work experience, for them, it is not worth it; otherwise, it is. That is my view.

Thanks,
Sara.

Hi,

Yes, the PG diploma is equivalent to an MBA. No reputed university gives you an MBA degree. The ultimate result is a PG Diploma and not a degree.

Hi Joe,

I am not sure if I can agree with you completely on the same, because based on one incident/rejection, you cannot generalize the fact that MBA candidates with a distance learning background are not taken seriously. Each individual has his/her own share of experiences, and based on my experience, it is how you position yourself in the interview, how effectively you are able to convince your prospective employer that you will add value to the organization.

If you have performed well at the interview, trust me, your qualifications take a back seat, and the management will find ways to accommodate your profile even if they have strict selection criteria for hiring full-time MBA candidates.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Sameer

Yes, you are correct. This was happening in MNCs. Experience is more important than the degree you have. A degree is only an additional qualification if you have good experience in the concerned field. There is no question about distance or regular education. The key point is whether the candidate is capable or not. In my opinion, there is no difference between regular or distance education. Subject knowledge is crucial.

Hi Joe,

Yes, I truly agree with you. I am currently pursuing an MBA in HR through distance learning. There are some actions that should be implemented in the companies' hiring of HR executives. Despite having a strong grasp of the subjects, companies often prefer full-time candidates. However, distance learning candidates bring real-time experience to the table. Therefore, the distance learning individuals could potentially be better candidates than full-time ones.

What do you think, Joe?

Regards,
Srinivas

Mr. Joe,

Yes, I agree with your statement that an MBA in HR through distance learning is not highly recognized when we are seeking opportunities with reputable organizations. I have encountered a similar situation where I was informed that they only acknowledge those who have completed full-time MBAs. However, I would like to emphasize that we are pursuing this course through distance learning amidst our busy schedules, balancing both professional and personal responsibilities, and still achieving good academic and work experience.

It is important for them to understand that we are unable to leave our jobs to pursue this course on a full-time basis. Instead, they should acknowledge the effort we are putting in to enhance our knowledge despite our hectic schedules.

Best of luck, Mr. Joe, for your future endeavors.

Goodbye,
Nitya

Dear All,

It is a serious concern and job threat to people who have completed DLP/PT courses in Human Resources/Industrial Relations/Personnel Management. However, in the PSU and Government sectors, it is acceptable. Private employers should consider it.

Regards,
Gauri Tomar

Dear Jeo,

I am pursuing my MBA while working in a staffing company. I am currently seeking a new opportunity as an HR Generalist in a reputable company. Will it truly have an impact?

Keshav Reddy.

It is true that background and experience should have much more value than the mode of study. But what about the advertisements of big corporates that say, "MBA through DL/Part-time need not apply"? Unless you are given a chance to prove your capabilities in the interview, for which you are not called, the rest remains a cliche.

Govans

Yes, I agree with you. One thing I want to share with you as an HR professional is why organizations prefer a full-time MBA candidate. When a person is enrolled full-time in university, they are more immersed in the education system and academic environment. They engage in more discussions and debates, which enhances their communication skills and self-confidence. On the other hand, those pursuing a part-time MBA often juggle work commitments alongside their studies, leaving them with limited time to interact with various professionals, teachers, professors, and fellow students. Engaging in debates with peers is particularly beneficial for learning, but part-time students may miss out on this due to their work schedules, which can restrict the universality of the university experience. In contrast, a full-time MBA student dedicates most of their time to university life, fully immersing themselves in the learning process and making the most of every minute spent on campus. These advantages of full-time education make professionals more inclined to hire individuals who are fully committed to their studies in university.

Hi Joe,

I have completed my three-year part-time program, and I too have faced the same problem. It is a given fact...

Agree with Priyankha. I too faced the same situation but now managed to get a job in a reputed retail giant. I have a total of 5 years of experience in HR and am pursuing an MBA through DLP. But it's really proud for all of you to know that before selection, I defeated 9 regular MBA students in the final selection. In my opinion, only experience should matter.

Even my friend is facing the same problem. Now, she is working as an operational executive. It should be discussed tactfully because day by day people are more interested in DLP. Because in this case, they can gain experience, and at the same time, they can continue their management studies as well.

Hi Joe... :-P

You have raised a very valid question. People like us who are pursuing distance learning courses have to struggle a lot. But how do we make employers understand that a person holding a DLP can be equally expert/qualified as a person with a regular course? Everyone needs a chance to prove themselves, so those who are qualified and really want to prove themselves should get the opportunity.

At least this awareness is necessary for all. :)

Hey Joe,

Look for a company that suits your potential. It all depends on the way you talk and your attitude towards them. If you have good communication skills and if you know how to express ideas into words, then that's all that matters. Forget about what the company wants as a qualification. We need to show them what we've got and do our part.

Regards,
Kyntiew

Dear Joe,

You are correct. But why are university people not thinking about this serious problem? Do they just want to make money?

Thank you.

Hi Joe,

I feel that experience and knowledge matter in deciding the success in any given field. Your friend should ensure that she has proper knowledge in HR, either equivalent to those who have completed a full-time MBA or even better if she can apply the theories she has learned in the part-time course to benefit the industry she is working in. Surely, she can achieve success! All the best to her.

There's a quote in our ancient scriptures in Sanskrit: "Aano bhadra krtavo yantu vishwatah," which means, "Let noble thoughts come from all directions." These will come with lots of reading and enriching yourself with experience.

I believe that knowledge, coupled with relevant experience, will matter the most in the long run.

Best regards,
Dhvani

Dear Joe,

Thank you. I think a proposal can be moved through to government organizations. If such DLP details are not acceptable, then why do they start them in universities like IGNOU and all.

Thank you,
Tarun

Dear Joe,

I agree that most of the top companies look for full-time MBAs. However, in this regard, I would like to provide a small example.

We had an opening for an HR Executive last year and advertised for the same with the heading "MBA with min 2 years of Experience." We received a large number of resumes which posed challenges in processing them. It became evident that there were numerous individuals with MBAs.

This year, when the incumbent left our office, we decided to advertise with specific criteria for filtration purposes. The heading read as follows:
- Full-time MBA
- 60% from 10th grade to degree
- Specialization in____________________

The outcome was that only qualified individuals meeting these criteria responded. This experience led me to realize that part-time and distance education were contributing factors to the filtration process.

However, we also acknowledge that there are many 'MBA part-time' candidates who excel in their current roles.

Regards,
Prajith.S

Dear Joe,

MBA HR is a full-time study course basically designed for students who can dedicate their full time to the degree. Those who complete this degree are offered entry-level positions in companies. On the other hand, short courses are arranged for professionals or individuals already employed who wish to enhance their knowledge and understanding of the latest practices in the field. This is the main difference. Nevertheless, short courses are primarily targeted at higher management positions, often requiring a blend of experience as well.

Thank you.

Hi,

I agree with Dr. Peeyush about starting with a mid-sized company, gaining experience while completing your part-time studies, and then moving on to a better organization. I'm sure a wise HR professional would rather hire an experienced person with part-time studies than a full-timer with shoddy experience.

Regards,
Jennifer

Dear Joe,

This is really a very serious issue that you have raised in front of all the HR professionals and the students of HR....being a student of DLP (ICFAI) even i am suffering with the same problem, I have 1.5 yrs of experience.
I would like to ask all of you out there, that in HR experience matter or degree matters....???

As i have some of my friends who are at a good position (Unit HR, HR executive) in good reputed organization and they have acquired that position without a degree....of course later they had to get degree to grow further.....

Now what will you say on this my dear friends.....
degree or experience..... i know theoretical knowledge is equally important as practical.....but then y full time..... and not part time degree????
part time degree also gives the same knowledge as full time only difference is the classroom effect....theory is same.....

In fact i feel that part time serves the purpose more as you get the practical knowledge as well as u are studying which make things more clear......

Now the issue is company criteria…… I would suggest that we should raise the issues in journals (and u all can suggest where else) so that companies and the DLP institutes both should be aware of the gap between them.

What say friends??? I am not aware that how to go about it…but you all are more experienced and learned professionals to help us out in this…….

Hi,

Gone are the days when an organization expects its departments to work separately, achieving individual/functional targets. The current scenario expects its employees to have a basic idea of all its functions. This is more true for a function like HR, where one has to engage and resolve issues for employees from various functions (sales, marketing, finance, operations, etc.).

Would a person having done an MBA part-time or through distance education (and without actual hands-on experience) fulfill the above-mentioned criteria? With colleges churning out full-time MBAs every year, why would a company invest in someone with a part-time or distance education MBA when full-time MBAs can be easily recruited?

Having said that, I would also like to clarify that the type of education does not guarantee professional success. The type of education comes into play only during the initial years, after which the rise in an organization is solely based on merit and capabilities.

Regards,
MM

Hi there,

It is truly disheartening to witness the arbitrary discrimination based on the requirement of a full-time MBA (HR) degree for job opportunities. If this is the case, the government should not have introduced Distance Learning Programs (DLP) or Distance Mode of Education (DME) at all. Many individuals are facing unnecessary challenges due to this practice, highlighting the urgent need for appropriate intervention by the relevant authorities.

Thank you,
Krk Rao

Dear Peeyush,

I agree with you that initially this problem may persist with many big organizations, but after one has experience of 2-3 years, this constraint disappears.

Regards,
Surabhi

Hi All,

The reason companies don't consider DLP courses in HR anymore is because everybody these days is doing a course from Symbiosis and other universities. In fact, colleagues from my ex-company would write tests for each other and pass assessments, etc. The authenticity of the course is lost. You just get the degree and not the knowledge/quality. Like the rest have said, nothing can be done about this, but a few years of work experience with good brands should solve this problem.

The reason these courses are run is for the concept of 'continuing education'. Medium-sized firms accept part-time and DLP degrees.

Hi, I agree with you, but not all companies recruit those who have a degree from a full-time course. They also consider experience as well as knowledge about the required field.

Hi Joe,

Let's try to understand that a DLP is very different from a part-time or Executive program, which may be different from a regular program. Most of the top B-schools have stringent criteria for their part-time curriculum for working executives, and they are almost equivalent to the regular programs. However, the DLPs do not have selection criteria, and not to sound rude, but it is almost like buying a degree. I have interviewed many DLP participants who seem to be unaware of even the basics. So technically, a DLP has no learning value except that it can be mentioned on the resume, and even recruiters are very particular about the same. However, if someone is pursuing a career in the same field, then it is always advisable to get a lot of certifications in the respective work area, which will add value to your work and your knowledge.

Regards,
Amit

Hi Swati,

Even I've done my P.G in H.R through DL, but my problem is from where I'm to start. Can you please help me regarding this matter? I shall be waiting for your response.

Dear All,

Nowadays, the scenario is changing. Corporates are now accepting DL MBA/PG Diplomas with some reservations. Kya Tata aur Birlas ne koi MBA kiya tha? Aur kya hai koi aaj unke jaisa businessman and risk-taker? Actually, business is a matter of risk-taking and vision, and your public relations. MBA can be of some value added to it but should not be a must criteria.

Regards,
Ashish Tandon

Hi, this is usenaiah.

Your topic is 50% theory and 50% practical because I completed my MBA through distance learning. Before my MBA, I had two years of experience in the HR department. Recently, my organization hired full-time MBA candidates, but it hasn't been beneficial because theoretical knowledge differs from practical knowledge.

Thank you.

Hi Joe,

You have raised a very good query, and I agree with what Gitika says. Experience, knowledge, and performance matter, as well as dependencies on the organization's requirements.

Regards,
Priyanka

Dear All,
First of all pls don't be disappointed with the fact that you have done a MBA – DLP and you are not being hired……I have seen cases where a person has done MBA from Bihar University and is working as a Director……Yes No Doubt about it preferences are also given to the Regular Candidates and there are reasons for it…First Presentation Skills, You cannot learn this skill while you are doing MBA thru DLP….second inter personal skills, and other soft skills, leadership qualities etc are not imparted thru a DLP whereas you learn the same when u are in a regular course…but that does not mean you wont get the job…DLP courses are to promote within the same organization or to look for medium sized companies and not MNC's as MNC expectation graph is too high…..even if candidate is a duffer and done his MBA from a reputed institute without much job knowledge he is hired as companies go by the brand name of the institute but these days companies look for Experience, your previous organization you worked for, Job Knowledge …but yes you would be hired by someone or the other and after years of experience you certainly can move into a good company….so wait for the right time and right company to strike you way rather than losing hope and getting frustrated….Hit the bulls eye given an opportunity…..There are people who are not even MBA's but working at very senior level like my x to x boss..just a B.Com was infact a Director....so wait and have patience....

That's true. I am a manager in a firm in the HR department. I have an executive program in management.

Let's all accept that a DLP cannot be compared to a regular program. See, all of us working, so let's look at this example. Can you count the experience of an HR professional who says that he has spent three years in the HR department but was working only for one hour each day? If you had to evaluate, I am sure all of you would say that his experience would be close to three months in total.

Even a one-year program from a reputed institute would have 300*8 = 2400 hours of academic learning besides exposure to various other disciplines. I hope I am making sense to all.

Hi,

Yes, I have also encountered such a situation. In my case, I had experience in a different field, specifically in production and quality assurance in the manufacturing industry with 7 to 8 years of experience. Meanwhile, I completed my MBA in HR through distance learning. Most opportunities were seeking young, fresh candidates for full-time positions. Therefore, I decided to approach smaller companies, which turned out to be successful. Currently, I am working as an HR professional. So, don't feel discouraged. It's advisable to explore opportunities with smaller organizations to gain practical experience, which will be beneficial for your future.

Regards,
Kumar

Dear Friends,

DLP is something that has been viewed as a generalistic approach and not as serious as specialized education because formal education is where individuals attend colleges full-time for two years to obtain a Master's Degree with specialization.

How can part-time education be equated with formal rigorous full-time education? Someone who spends full time and another part-time cannot be given the same weightage.

This is not fair. Therefore, the market recognizes formal full-time education as per global university norms for certification of Bachelor's degrees or Master's degrees, which have universal recognition as an equivalent educational pattern followed worldwide.

For your information, many institutes have been awarded deemed university status, but has anyone raised the question of what they are awarding? They award Diplomas, not degrees, because they do not offer formal university education. Deemed status is assumed to be something like university education, which is not a global norm or practice for formal university education. Hence, these deemed institutions should have affiliations with formal universities for the validation of their education.

However, in India, deemed universities and Distance Learning Programs or Open Universities are viewed as similar concepts to informal education.

Mostly, such informal education has a place in the private sector companies, but initially, it is difficult to break through and convince them that you are a serious candidate. If luck favors you and you secure employment, depending on your experience and ability to increase expertise in the field, you may be given due weightage at par with other formally educated candidates because of your expertise and experience level. At one stage, you may even surpass your fellow companions solely based on your worth in experience or expertise, where performance is the criteria, and no one questions your education.

However, for this, you need a bit of luck to break into the field and then excel from there. For jobs in the government/public sector, it is mandatory to have formal full-time education from an approved university as they do not recognize deemed universities, DLPs, or Open Universities.

The same story applies to employment abroad where your degree from an approved formal university is the basis. Deemed universities, Open Universities, or DLPs do not hold the same weight here. Even after completing education from a recognized university, most Western education systems recommend further education from respective countries for validation. Your formal university degree is the basis for this.

I hope you understand the point.

Regards,

Sawant

Dear Joe,

I have 13 years of experience in the same organization. I started from scratch, and as the years went by, I received several promotions. Due to financial constraints, the organization had to downsize, and I was the only one left to handle all the activities of Administration, Accounts, and HR. I report to the Head Office in Mumbai as our office is a branch.

I realized the impact of the recession rather late, and I decided to enhance my qualifications. I pursued an MBA in HR through distance learning, balancing my official duties and personal responsibilities. I successfully completed the course.

However, despite my extensive experience in various functions (albeit not solely in HR), I faced disappointment while searching for a career in HR in corporate organizations. I have received offers from consultancies, but I am concerned about the limited growth prospects there.

I would appreciate your insights on this situation.

Regards,
Nithya

:!: Dear All,

I could find some useful information (in quotes) vide Notification (44) dated 1st March, 1995 issued by (VIJAY BHARAT), DEPUTY EDUCATIONAL ADVISER (T) & SECRETARY, BOARD OF ASSESSMENT FOR EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, Ministry of Human Resource Development (Department of Education), Govt. of India, New Delhi -


"On the recommendation of the Board of Assessment for Educational Qualifications, the Government of India has decided that all the qualifications awarded through Distance Education by the Universities established by an Act of Parliament or State Legislature, Institutions Deemed to be Universities under Section 3 of the UGC Act, 1956 and Institutions of National Importance declared under an Act of Parliament stand automatically recognized for the purpose of employment to posts and services under the Central Government, provided it has been approved by Distance Education Council, Indira Gandhi National Open University, K 76, Hauz Khas, New Delhi–110016
and wherever necessary by All India Council for Technical Education, I .G. Sports Complex, I.P. Estate, New Delhi-110002."

Source: Distance Learning - Notifications/Circulars <link updated to site home> ( Search On Cite | Search On Google ) ( same is uploaded as Attachment

regards,
kadalirao

Dear all,

I have a query from all CiteHR members, and I guess it's becoming serious day by day.

In most organizations, especially when HR hiring takes place, the basic criterion is that a person should be an MBA-HR from a reputed institute. I understand this. Most organizations are particular about MBA-Full-time courses, and I understand this too. Now, the issue arises when a person is excellent in all areas and can be considered for an HR position but has done an MBA-Part-time/DLP (Distance Learning Program); then the person is rejected immediately. WHY? Is it because of not meeting the criteria? If this is the selection criterion, then why are such courses approved?

I want to understand why, if the person is excellent, he/she is not given an opportunity. According to me, this is baseless.

Please give your opinion on this.

Hi!

I can personally understand this situation quite well. While this could be considered as a valid attitude in hiring freshers in the HR field, once a person has been in the HR field in a good company for about 2 years, ideally, this should not hinder his further progress.

I suggest one shouldn't be disheartened and should continue to add to one's arsenal with further HR courses via DLP, while working in a company. They can do no harm at the least.

So far, I have come to know that these DLP programs will be beneficial for those who are already engaged in a full-time job. Any vacancy that requires experience and specific qualifications is considered on par by the employer. However, I may add, if this is true, then why are unemployed or part-time employees allowed to enroll?

Thank you.

Not all companies have a preference for full-time MBAs; some companies do. In my experience, work experience is always considered first and foremost for an HR job.

Regards,
Rajeev

I have 2 years of work experience in the HR department, and my qualification is an MBA with a specialization in Finance. Recently, I have completed my MSW from IGNOU University. I would like to know if this new qualification is considered valid in the field of HR.

Agree, the same. But the thing is that there is a difference in the learning manner. Most of the time in full-time mode, they execute proper validation (government norms) of the course. They conduct proper industrial visits for students, which are essential for academic purposes. Proper presentations (PPT) are conducted. A proper method of examinations (NO FAVORS, only government norms apply, like proper examination center, proper examination seat number, proper online results, proper supervisory faculty, etc.). Regular attendance with a pre-decided attendance percentage.

The above points were not maintained in DLP.

Right now, a new question arises: if any student knows the above-mentioned five basic rules, then why would he/she enroll in such a DLP course instead of going for a full-time course?

Now, if we talk about financial problems or time limits, I suggest you talk to an education counselor, your friends, or your family members about this problem. Asking for help does not mean you are small.

But remember, there is no shortcut in education.

Dear All,

I agree with all of you. I have posted the same article on LinkedIn. I am sharing that article. I have understood it; it's a serious concern. These courses should not be introduced in institutes and universities. There is very little scope for DLP courses in HRM.

Thanks