WHY EMPLOYEES LEAVE ORGANISATIONS- Azim Premji

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WHY EMPLOYEES LEAVE ORGANISATIONS? –

Azim Premji,


Every company normally faces one common problem of high employee turnout atio. People are leaving the company for better pay, better profile or simply for just one reason' pak gaya '. This article might just throw some light on the matter......

Early this year, Arun, an old friend who is a senior software designer, got an offer from a prestigious international firm to work in its India operations developing specialized software. He was thrilled by the offer. He had heard a lot about the CEO of this company, charismatic man often quoted in the business press for his visionary attitude. The salary was great. The company had all the right systems in place employee-friendly human resources (HR) policies, a spanking new office, and the very best technology, even a canteen that served superb food. Twice Arun was sent abroad for training. "My learning curve is the sharpest it's ever been," he said soon after he joined. "It's a real high working with such cutting edge technology." Last week, less than eight months after he joined, Arun walked out of the job. He has no other offer in hand but he said he couldn't take it anymore. Nor, apparently, could several other people in his department who have also quit recently.

The CEO is distressed about the high employee turnover. He's distressed about the money he's spent in training them. He's distressed because he can't figure out what happened. Why did this talented employee leave despite a top salary? Arun quit for the same reason that drives many good people away. The answer lies in one of the largest studies undertaken by the Gallup Organization. The study surveyed over a million employees and 80,000 managers and was published in a book called First Break All The Rules.

It came up with this surprising finding:

If you're losing good people, look to their immediate supervisor. More than any other single reason, he is the reason people stay and thrive in an organization. And he's the reason why they quit, taking their knowledge, experience and contacts with them. Often, straight to the competition. "People leave managers not companies," write the authors Marcus Buckingham and Curt Coffman. "So much money has been thrown at the challenge of keeping good people - in the form of better pay, better perks and better training - when, in the end, turnover is mostly manager issue." If you have a turnover problem, look first to your managers. Are they driving people away? Beyond a point, an employee's primary need has less to do with money, and more to do with how he's treated and how valued he feels. Much of this depends directly on the immediate manager. And yet, bad bosses seem to happen to good people everywhere.. A Fortune magazine survey some years ago found that nearly 75 per cent of employees have suffered at the hands of difficult superiors. You can leave one job to find - you guessed it, another wolf in a pin-stripe suit in the next one. Of all the workplace stressors, a bad boss is possibly the worst, directly impacting the emotional health and productivity of employees. HR experts say that of all the abuses, employees find public humiliation the most intolerable. The first time, an employee may not leave, but a thought has been planted.. The second time, that thought gets strengthened. The third time, he starts looking for another job. When people cannot retort openly in anger, they do so by passive aggression. By digging their heels in and slowing down. By doing only what they are told to do and no more. By omitting to give the boss crucial information.

Dev says: "If you work for a jerk, you basically want to get him into trouble. You don't have your heart and soul in the job." Different managers can stress out employees in different ways - by being too controlling, too suspicious, too pushy, too critical, but they forget that workers are not fixed assets, they are free agents. When this goes on too long, an employee will quit - often over seemingly trivial issue. It isn't the 100th blow that knocks a good man down. It's the 99 that went before. And while it's true that people leave jobs for all kinds of reasons- for better opportunities or for circumstantial reasons, many who leave would have stayed - had it not been for one man constantly telling them, as Arun's boss did: "You are dispensable. I can find dozens like you." While it seems like there are plenty of other fish especially in today's waters, consider for a moment the cost of losing a talented employee.There's the cost of finding a replacement. The cost of training the replacement. The cost of not having someone to do the job in the meantime. The loss of clients and contacts the person had with the industry. The loss of morale in co-workers. The loss of trade secrets this person may now share with others. Plus, of course, the loss of the company's reputation. Every person who leaves a corporation then becomes its ambassador, for better or for worse. We all know of large IT companies that people would love to join and large television companies few want to go near. In both cases, former employees have left to tell their tales.

"Any company trying to compete must figure out a way to engage the mind of every employee," Jack Welch of GE once said. Much of a company's value lies "between the ears of its employees". If it's bleeding talent, it's bleeding value. Unfortunately, many senior executives busy travelling the world, signing new deals and developing a vision for the company, have little idea of what may be going on at home.That deep within an organization that otherwise does all the right things, one man could be driving its best people away.
leolingham2000
WHY EMPLOYEES LEAVE ............

There is a lot of truth in the article.

Unfortunately, the example refers to a SOFTWARE OPERATION. From my knowledge, many of the IT firms promote people based on their technical competency/years of experience and not management ability. Either they should be nominated for the managerial position based on management talent or trained in management skills/techniques before being promoted.

Regards,
LEO LINGHAM
raashid243
Hi Azim Premji,

Have you worked on the effect of perceived family support on job satisfaction (life and job satisfaction) or do you have any idea about it? I would appreciate it if you could guide me or send some material on this.

Regards,
Rashid
rajeshchalke
Dear Azimji,

This is good topic to discuss, but still there are so many factors those are important also in job profile.

India is a hub for software industry, but how many software engineers are working in thr domain. They have talent but they won’t be able to show that.

An employee always looks forward to see good company as well good package to grow and satisfy for his future requirements. Everywhere we find that employee is not satisfied and they will try to see outcome and what they are doing in organization and what they are doing. When comparison starts then thr is end and employee start looking for other opening.

Thr is a way to stop your employees from leaving [according to me]

Understand employee first

Understand his requirement

Understand his interest of domain

Understand what is his view he may not be comfortable with HR. Ask his best friend if necessary

Understand his nature

Understand his problems

Understand how much time is devoted to his family

Understand his family problems

Understand his any financial issues

Understand what he is thinking about his manager or team lead

Understand any exploitation

Understand any mind teasing is any

Understand how is lead manager

Understand how much pressure he can take

Thr are so many to thk over it to stop employee from leaving organization

Apply this and see the results, I am sure that you will find less employee leaving

Rajesh Chalke

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Madhu.T.K
The matter of high labor turnover is a serious issue in the private sector. I am concerned about why it is predominantly confined to the private sector when employees in government departments, public sector undertakings, and banks work until their superannuation. My observation is that job security plays a significant role. Despite the industrial/employee relations in such organizations, employees feel compelled to continue working simply because they are employed. In many parts of India, particularly rural areas, even with the rise of private sector employment opportunities, the preference is still for government jobs as they are seen as more secure. Though the salary may be lower, societal recognition acts as the ultimate determining factor.

Regards, Madhu.T.K
dharmendra kumar sharma
Dear Mr. Premji,

One possible explanation for your quote is that an employee leaves because they are not satisfied with their current job, company, role, salary, or colleagues, barring any significant personal issues.

Dharmendra
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djdoll2
Respected Mr. Premji,

One answer to your quote is that an employee leaves because he is not satisfied with his current job, company, profile, remuneration, colleagues, etc., if there is no serious personal problem.

Dharmendra
09412627541

Why on earth is Azim Premji (CEO of Wipro) being addressed or questioned in this post? He has not posted this article; it is his thoughts or article that has been posted here by Nehya01. :-P He is not going to go through or answer.
ravinder_vemula
Hello All,

This is a wonderful piece of article on why employees quit a company. Awesome information given by Azimji. There is a huge subjectivity here where we need to understand the employee in all aspects. The provided information and views are very useful to everyone who deals with employees and aims to understand them better. Sharing knowledge is 'DIVINE'. Learn and make others learn.

I take this opportunity to appreciate everyone who is contributing their valuable time for the advice given.

Thank you,
Ravinder.
AnonymousBangalore
Facts About WIPRO Tech

Azim Premji may be a good person and a good manager, but at WIPRO, it sucks. I was in an account, and I will tell you what the actual situation is - That account is one of the highest revenue at Wipro Tech and it had some really good employees. Now:

1. The General Manager comes from a PSU and has no idea how a software system is built. I agree that you need not know techie stuff to be a GM. But if you are in an ecosystem, you need to know that ecosystem well. Will you accept a Petroleum Manager to lead a Hospital? You can imagine it will be disastrous.

I will not go into how he got in there. In India, language-based recruitment rules. Only when the company founders or someone who is really good (mostly from good institutes) takes your interview, then it is a different matter. Otherwise, if someone speaks Latin and the interviewer speaks Latin, then that person is recruited.

2. In my entire stay, which was substantial, the GM never gave a talk to the team. And he is the CEO of that account. You can imagine the kind of inspiration he drives.

3. In almost every team, the GM will have a spy, based on linguistic identity. How did I know? When I was about to leave, the GM told me that some XYZ manager is keeping a tab on me and I am not fit for the position I am requesting. Well, some 4 other companies were ready to give me the same offer.

4. Project managers use abusive language - of course, on a fun basis. Sala, Harami (they are South Indians!) etc., and get away with it. As they are saying it humorously. Abe Chupe Kar, Kamine, etc., also go on.

5. Project Managers have no idea about management. They send FYI mails from one person to the team, and every morning you come, you will see many of them. It does not have any analysis, direction, or input. Just FYI or FYA. Good lord, I have never seen this kind of people.

6. Technicality be damned. The account has been running for some 15 odd years, and the work is not substantial. It is all politics all the way. The managers cannot even create a Project Plan using MS Project. I have first-hand experience with that.

7. People who are good keep on learning anyway. But when politics rules, technology is not valued, management is imbecile and language-based, then how long will a good employee stay?

8. The HR team (they call it TED) is one of the worst. First, the HR manager is rarely on the phone, and even if you ask, you will not get a reply 99% of the time if the question is tough.

9. Ethics and Morality: It is something Premji is fanatical about. But it does not exist there at all.

10. The people who have been there for 5+ years carry a red tag and think they have seen almost the world. They do not have proper knowledge (people who are good have left) but are put in management. They do not have certifications like PMP or Prince2 or have any proper language skills like Java or C++. They continue palming the hands of their superiors and, of course, the language factor.

So how did I join?

Well, I thought that here is a company that talks of ethics, integrity, a CMM5 and PCMM5, and the world's first at that, something must be there. It is not. But I stayed as I had client commitments.

So how do they get so much revenue?

1 USD = 50 Rupees!

I stand by all my comments, and I have proof in the form of emails from Wipro's manager and their imbecility.
vikas g
Yes, you are right, and your thoughts are valuable. However, how many of us really understand or want to understand this? The fact is, "It's employees that make the organizations, not the organizations that make people talented." One should try to retain good employees, but we need to know the facts and requirements to retain good employees, and that is needed to practice.
bobkis
There is a lot of truth in this article. Even I faced this as well. I joined a good private company and thought that I had a permanent job because I heard positive talk about the company in the media. When I joined that company, I found that it was entirely different from what the media was writing. After working there for 1 year, I got a promotion as a TL because of my hard work. When I was in training, I was searching for an issue, and if I learned that, both the company and I would benefit. One day, while I was reading, a Senior TL came to me and shouted at me when he found out I was reading something else. He seriously asked me some technical questions regarding the training, and I answered all of them. Then he left, and within 10 minutes, I got a call from my higher management asking about the issue. I explained everything, but to my shock, they gave me a memo stating that I was not doing well in training and removed me from the TL position as well.

What can I do? I simply left the company and joined another company.
greatidea
Very good article. I wish this article 'a must' for every manager, HR executive, HR manager, CEO, CMD, etc. Though there are certain other factors of leaving a job, daily humiliation and torture create disappointment, annoyance, and rivalry with superiors. In many companies, seniors are elected as managers without knowledge of human resources, without the understanding of how to handle manpower, no MBA degree, or detailed study of the physiology of the juniors. Poor juniors or subordinates, however, do not dare to report this fact to anybody but keep on sustaining the stress, and this pressure causes ill-effects on their daily life and family life. Even I've personally seen so many cases of this type and also experienced this as a junior.

Hence, a manager should be elected with great care, and special training should be given to them.
greatidea
Dear Anonymous,

I totally agree with you, and very much with your points 7 & 10. Frankly speaking, this problem is something that every company (no matter how small or big) has and cannot eliminate, only control the extent. I've changed companies four times and have personally faced and heard similar experiences from friends in other big national and multinational companies.

It's very sad, but it's the truth. The responses of seniors or those with 5+ years of experience towards their juniors are totally personal. I also agree that their attitude tarnishes the company's reputation. They are often promoted solely based on their seniority within the company, which is not always reflective of their actual capabilities.

A possible solution (or perhaps the only option) is to report this kind of behavior to higher management before considering leaving the company. Initially, management may not take immediate action due to potential corruption within the organization, but it is their responsibility, along with the HR manager, to address such issues. They may attempt to resolve the matter through discussions, but if the problem persists and other employees also report similar complaints, the situation may escalate. Some companies have an "ethics code counselor" who can receive such reports confidentially and take appropriate action.

Before deciding to resign, it is crucial to report such information to the higher management via email, with the HR manager or ethics counselor copied in the communication.

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sidonpursuit
Dear Mr. Premji,

I've just graduated from college and I want to find a job on my own, without any recommendations. So, I attended a Wipro placement drive organized by I.P.S.R on the 7th of July in my hometown, Calicut. I apologize for being blunt, but I must say the interview was chaotic. There was only one interviewer for 400 of us. I appreciate that he at least asked me to introduce myself, but he cut me off before I could finish. I have heard from acquaintances working at Wipro that it is a well-organized company. However, after hearing similar experiences from others who attended the drive, I have started to think differently.

When I sought clarification from the HR representative present (Mr. Anil Thankan), he dismissed me, saying that I had Mother Tongue Influence (MTI) in my language, as did others, and now it's not my language but my attitude that is the issue. I believe addressing such matters privately and in person with the appropriate authority is the right course of action. I have been a consumer of your products for years, if not an employee. Will charging a registration fee of 100 rupees from each of us unemployed youths benefit your company in any way? Or is this a way for your not-so-loyal employees to earn extra income? Today's incident has deeply hurt me, and I am willing to go to any lengths to seek justice. I am pleading with you for justice.

Thank you.
replyshelar
It is good to say, "People leave managers, not the company," but only the manager, not the HR policies? What I have experienced in my organization is that most people leave because of a lack of HR policies.
deepakdjoshi
Greetings from Deepak D Joshi from Mumbai, India.

A very important question raised by Shri. Azim Premji.

Thank you, sir.

In my experience, the real reason why employees leave an organization after they have put in integrity, hard work, and dedication is that they have not been looked after or their basic needs taken care of. Such employees look up to the company chairman, MD, or even the director to come forward to help them. But when this does not happen, eventually employees start leaving or deserting the organization, resulting in a loss to the organization in terms of goodwill and business.

I have been working in the optical industry for 30 years, and now at the age of 51, having started at 21, I have built up a decent goodwill in this trade. Three bitter experiences have jolted my life, with the last one even taking the life of my mother.

Since then, I have constantly been praying to almighty God to inspire people like Shri. Ratan Tata, Shri. Anand Mahindra, Shri. Azim Premji, Shri. Kishore Biyani, and Shri. Venu Srinivasan to venture into optical business retail and Lens lab business, and to look after their employees who, in turn, will look after their investments and customers. As rightly said by HCL CEO Mr. V. Nayyar, the first employee and second customer. (NUTS & GUTS BOOK ALSO SAYS THE SAME) I firmly believe in doing business ethically and professionally with integrity.

My sincere thanks to CITE HR.COM for allowing me to express my views and suggestions, which are vital and the most important human aspect in taking care of an organization where promoters and shareholders have invested their precious money and trust.

Thank you,

Yours Truly,

Deepak D Joshi

Mumbai

0-99870 84400

EMAIL I.D. deepakdjoshi@live.in
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Please provide guidance on creating a leave policy for employees whose families reside out of town. This policy should enable employees to allocate time for their families as well.
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The simplest way to know the reasons for employee attrition can be found by implementing a suggestion box, referred to as the BB (Bonding Box), in the company's restrooms. Employees should be encouraged to submit unsigned notes detailing their grievances and suggestions. Genuine issues raised anonymously should be addressed promptly to foster trust in the system and prevent the box from becoming a repository for irrelevant complaints. Only a designated, trustworthy individual should have access to unlock the BB. This approach will likely reveal the true reasons behind attrition. Thank you.

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