I do agree with you Dr.Mahanta that consensus hardly comes to view- because -there is no such thing as 'consensus' in reality as the group getting larger and larger.Knowingly or unknowingly, automatically we get trapped into the Aristotlean logic based on the principle of dualism and we blissfully tend to refute the very existence of the third alternative.Very particularly, in issues like the one we are discussing, actually what surfaces out is 'false consensus'.False consensus effect is a type of bias which makes the believer to hold his view-point the most common and appropriate so that others should also feel the same way.No one is an exception.
From India, Salem
6018From India, Salem
My stand is that, you should first categorized bureaucrats and politicians in different categories.
Bureaucrats: Highly qualified, trained and experienced (with time). They are assigned different positions and roles, based on their qualification, knowledge and skills. Yes, political affluence may be counted; however, it persistent in every field. Top bosses would like to have team, which understand him/her and he/she is confident about the team members. They are not accountable directly to public. They report/respond to the government only. “yatha raja (ministers) tatha praja (bureaucrats)”
Politicians: These are the elected public representatives, accountable to people directly (Atleast our system designed so). They depended on Bureaucrats to design/implement their plan (populist plans) to ensure that they can win next election too.
Politicians know the real problem and Bureaucrats know the solution for it. Politicians don’t need to be technically qualified same as businessman don’t have to concern about the technicalities. They are concerned about the policy and their effect on business/public. They hire resources to get plan implemented and to care of technicalities.
Farmers don’t necessarily need to goto Agricultural University, to do farming. There are many innovations used in day-to-day life, developed by persons who may not have seen the universities.
From India, Delhi
Bureaucrats: Highly qualified, trained and experienced (with time). They are assigned different positions and roles, based on their qualification, knowledge and skills. Yes, political affluence may be counted; however, it persistent in every field. Top bosses would like to have team, which understand him/her and he/she is confident about the team members. They are not accountable directly to public. They report/respond to the government only. “yatha raja (ministers) tatha praja (bureaucrats)”
Politicians: These are the elected public representatives, accountable to people directly (Atleast our system designed so). They depended on Bureaucrats to design/implement their plan (populist plans) to ensure that they can win next election too.
Politicians know the real problem and Bureaucrats know the solution for it. Politicians don’t need to be technically qualified same as businessman don’t have to concern about the technicalities. They are concerned about the policy and their effect on business/public. They hire resources to get plan implemented and to care of technicalities.
Farmers don’t necessarily need to goto Agricultural University, to do farming. There are many innovations used in day-to-day life, developed by persons who may not have seen the universities.
From India, Delhi
After all what are the credentials which make PM to choose some one (not necessarily an MP)as minister of a Ministry?
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
As I mentioned in case of Bureaucrats, political affluence does have a role, same is in case of Ministers.
UPA was bugged by regional parties and everyone knows, what are criteria used by the regional parties for nominating someone for ministerial post.
Many times they have considered cast/religion/region as criteria.
In case of Smriti Irani, it was her dedication to get task accomplished, seems to be have her positive attributes. Many times we are not ready to get in project, as we are sure that it is failure and may have negative effect on our profile. Here she has taken responsibilities and fought from Chandini Chowk as well as Amethi, were everyone was knowing that she will be defeated; however, it helped BJP by being seen as serious contender and sure of their victory.
Will you like to hire a driver for your children, who is highly qualified and done different certification OR someone who you trust (in driving as well as taking care of your children). There are places where you have to higher/appoint who have qualification & skills; however, Politician needs to be only Strong willed person with logical thinking.
Ministers are driving force of a government and PM always wants to have a team, which can deliver (Provided he has choice). Raja was re-appointed even though Manmohan singh not wanted, it was compulsion and lack of strong will.
From India, Delhi
UPA was bugged by regional parties and everyone knows, what are criteria used by the regional parties for nominating someone for ministerial post.
Many times they have considered cast/religion/region as criteria.
In case of Smriti Irani, it was her dedication to get task accomplished, seems to be have her positive attributes. Many times we are not ready to get in project, as we are sure that it is failure and may have negative effect on our profile. Here she has taken responsibilities and fought from Chandini Chowk as well as Amethi, were everyone was knowing that she will be defeated; however, it helped BJP by being seen as serious contender and sure of their victory.
Will you like to hire a driver for your children, who is highly qualified and done different certification OR someone who you trust (in driving as well as taking care of your children). There are places where you have to higher/appoint who have qualification & skills; however, Politician needs to be only Strong willed person with logical thinking.
Ministers are driving force of a government and PM always wants to have a team, which can deliver (Provided he has choice). Raja was re-appointed even though Manmohan singh not wanted, it was compulsion and lack of strong will.
From India, Delhi
Politician needs to be only Strong willed person with logical thinking
attribution https://www.citehr.com/495278-luck-c...#ixzz33XCHknn6
Is it so? Is it consensual in citehr? Is it not loyalty and royalty?
From India, Delhi
attribution https://www.citehr.com/495278-luck-c...#ixzz33XCHknn6
Is it so? Is it consensual in citehr? Is it not loyalty and royalty?
From India, Delhi
Really it is an outstanding speech as it was before an international audience. Addressing extempore an international audience in a foriegn language that too flawlessly in a fluent way perfectly complete with marshalling of ideas and anecdotes befitting the subject-matter and convincing presentation requires a lot of communication skill. Thank you Ragunathan!
From India, Salem
From India, Salem
Thank you Mr. Umakanthan for your affirmative feedback.
Hope other readers also would share their views.
As I was checking my previous posting , I found that couple of
inadvertent errors had crept in.
The word over had got repeated twice.
The last sentence should read .......would have been there.....
V.Raghunathan
From India
Hope other readers also would share their views.
As I was checking my previous posting , I found that couple of
inadvertent errors had crept in.
The word over had got repeated twice.
The last sentence should read .......would have been there.....
V.Raghunathan
From India
"Perhaps this will put to rest any qualms that would have there in the beginning.V.Raghunathan"
Please rejoice the English translation of the 10th sloka from Shringara Shatakam of Bhartrihari:
"There is no doubt that those great learned men have said the famous women as weak(abalaa) because of their stupidity. Because how can they be said weak who conquer even Indra etc. by their quick moving pupils?"
Why this wisdom has not put to rest the "qualms" on women?
From India, Delhi
Please rejoice the English translation of the 10th sloka from Shringara Shatakam of Bhartrihari:
"There is no doubt that those great learned men have said the famous women as weak(abalaa) because of their stupidity. Because how can they be said weak who conquer even Indra etc. by their quick moving pupils?"
Why this wisdom has not put to rest the "qualms" on women?
From India, Delhi
Dear Dr Jogheshwar Mahanta,
My comment on putting to rest was with respect to the starting of this thread
whether formal education is a MUST or otherwise for some one to at the helm of affairs as a HRD Minister.
Our HRD minister has clearly answered all her detractors by her captivating extempore speech.
While many accolades are still pouring in, the doubts in the minds of many is now effectively addressed.
Your citing a sloka brings out another dimension.
In the last couple of centuries Learned men like Raja Ram Mohun Roy, Subramania Bharathiyar ( there may be many At this instance I could recall only two names)
have done immense contribution for up-lift-ment of women in India.
Mrs Smriti Irani gave a key note speech on the empowerment of Women.
In that she makes a statement that women would want to be heard.
V.Raghunathan
From India
My comment on putting to rest was with respect to the starting of this thread
whether formal education is a MUST or otherwise for some one to at the helm of affairs as a HRD Minister.
Our HRD minister has clearly answered all her detractors by her captivating extempore speech.
While many accolades are still pouring in, the doubts in the minds of many is now effectively addressed.
Your citing a sloka brings out another dimension.
In the last couple of centuries Learned men like Raja Ram Mohun Roy, Subramania Bharathiyar ( there may be many At this instance I could recall only two names)
have done immense contribution for up-lift-ment of women in India.
Mrs Smriti Irani gave a key note speech on the empowerment of Women.
In that she makes a statement that women would want to be heard.
V.Raghunathan
From India
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