The employee has not turned after sabbatical, after show cause notice he was dismissed.
Now he is requesting for reversal because of career is affected because of dismissal.
Can the dismissal be reversed?
From India, Delhi
4Now he is requesting for reversal because of career is affected because of dismissal.
Can the dismissal be reversed?
From India, Delhi
Hi Xxxx, You can reverse the dismissal as a speacial case. Also work out what the conseqences for future will be. Will you entertain such cases in future and in which circumstances? Regards,
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
When we take certain decision, we need to be firm in its execution as well. Dismissal is not something equivalent to increase in fuel prices where Govt in many times ends up in rolling back prices albeit partially. If you roll back your decision then in what way you are different weak kneed politicians?
Secondly, you have given show cause notice. You have given chance to that person to explain his position. This was not on spot dismissal. I feel that this person tried his employment somewhere. When the things did not work there now he has come crying to you.
If you take tough stand then it will send message to one and all that you do not tolerate nonsense. However, if you revoke your decision then it may set a bad trend and revoking the decision may be construed as you are driven by heart rather than head.
Therefore, think of pros and cons before you take decision.
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Secondly, you have given show cause notice. You have given chance to that person to explain his position. This was not on spot dismissal. I feel that this person tried his employment somewhere. When the things did not work there now he has come crying to you.
If you take tough stand then it will send message to one and all that you do not tolerate nonsense. However, if you revoke your decision then it may set a bad trend and revoking the decision may be construed as you are driven by heart rather than head.
Therefore, think of pros and cons before you take decision.
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Hi
Well I completely understand and agree with Mr Divekar.
And could you please share more about this dismissal and what was the major reasons that forced you to take this decision.
As we are talking about a professional matter and decision, I believe Mr Divekar has made it really clear to you that will help you for your further action. You must not forget to reconsider the case of dismissal and the consequences of your decision that you are thinking over to take on a request of this employee.
From India, Gurgaon
Well I completely understand and agree with Mr Divekar.
And could you please share more about this dismissal and what was the major reasons that forced you to take this decision.
As we are talking about a professional matter and decision, I believe Mr Divekar has made it really clear to you that will help you for your further action. You must not forget to reconsider the case of dismissal and the consequences of your decision that you are thinking over to take on a request of this employee.
From India, Gurgaon
Dear All,
I sincerely and honestly beg to differ from rest of the post.
We humans are born to make mistakes irrespective of our qualifications, certifications and experience. Is there anyone in this world who never committed a mistake. Believe me or not, we are doing it everyday. Its a part of our life and will continue till the doom's day. Everyone has their own expectations and wants to achieve something best than the better. Aren't we in the same track?
We humans need to have a professional soft corner in our heart and make him feel his mistake rather being harsh. "Hosh me rehkar decision lena chaahiye balki josh me nahi". What does "empathy and sympathy" stands for and when & where can we apply it. We all deserve a chance to repent and ensure that, it is not repeated in the nearest future.
When everything is fare in LOVE & WAR, similarly, everything is fare in CORPORATE WORLD as if CORPORATES ARE PEFECT IN DOING EVERYTHING.
When we are blessed, let bless others. Humans are habitual of taking a stubborn harsh decision but god doesn't. Whatever written in our fate will happen as it is bound to happen and no one change or prevent it from happening.
Correct me if i am wrong.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
I sincerely and honestly beg to differ from rest of the post.
We humans are born to make mistakes irrespective of our qualifications, certifications and experience. Is there anyone in this world who never committed a mistake. Believe me or not, we are doing it everyday. Its a part of our life and will continue till the doom's day. Everyone has their own expectations and wants to achieve something best than the better. Aren't we in the same track?
We humans need to have a professional soft corner in our heart and make him feel his mistake rather being harsh. "Hosh me rehkar decision lena chaahiye balki josh me nahi". What does "empathy and sympathy" stands for and when & where can we apply it. We all deserve a chance to repent and ensure that, it is not repeated in the nearest future.
When everything is fare in LOVE & WAR, similarly, everything is fare in CORPORATE WORLD as if CORPORATES ARE PEFECT IN DOING EVERYTHING.
When we are blessed, let bless others. Humans are habitual of taking a stubborn harsh decision but god doesn't. Whatever written in our fate will happen as it is bound to happen and no one change or prevent it from happening.
Correct me if i am wrong.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Dear Khadir,
You have written to show compassion toward defaulter however, let me tell you that enterprise cannot be run with these biblical thoughts.
Far from religious tolerance, Mr KV Kamath, former CEO of ICICI Bank stated in his interview that "You can't run a company as a democracy".
An organisation becomes organisation when group of people are bound by common thread called as code of conduct. You cannot tie people with loose thread. Else this motley will start falling apart.
Discipline is foundation of personal life, of family life and society as a whole. With only discipline you cannot make progress but without it you will be doomed that is for sure.
Ok...
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
You have written to show compassion toward defaulter however, let me tell you that enterprise cannot be run with these biblical thoughts.
Far from religious tolerance, Mr KV Kamath, former CEO of ICICI Bank stated in his interview that "You can't run a company as a democracy".
An organisation becomes organisation when group of people are bound by common thread called as code of conduct. You cannot tie people with loose thread. Else this motley will start falling apart.
Discipline is foundation of personal life, of family life and society as a whole. With only discipline you cannot make progress but without it you will be doomed that is for sure.
Ok...
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Dear Sir,
I agree with your statements. Organisations are willing to lose talented workforce without forgiving their mistakes. To the contrary, employees had forgiven organisations who were defaulters.
On humanity grounds, only genuine cases can be considered by organisations. There might be a situation wherein organisation might require the services of such talented candidates in the nearest future.
These are only my views.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
I agree with your statements. Organisations are willing to lose talented workforce without forgiving their mistakes. To the contrary, employees had forgiven organisations who were defaulters.
On humanity grounds, only genuine cases can be considered by organisations. There might be a situation wherein organisation might require the services of such talented candidates in the nearest future.
These are only my views.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Any organization is run by people and processes.
It's totally up to you whom you wish to respect first- People or the process.
When you had given enough chances to the employee to return to his duties once his sabbatical was over, there is no more room for any change. If we keep on ignoring the processes laid down in any organization, the desired organization culture cant be achieved.
Regards,
Rahul Chhabra
From India, Delhi
It's totally up to you whom you wish to respect first- People or the process.
When you had given enough chances to the employee to return to his duties once his sabbatical was over, there is no more room for any change. If we keep on ignoring the processes laid down in any organization, the desired organization culture cant be achieved.
Regards,
Rahul Chhabra
From India, Delhi
It is not an easy problem and also becomes quite subjective.
Ideally, and especially if it is not a serious criminal misconduct, you would not want to brand someone for life. But obviously, you have to run an organization and you can't give out the signal that people can get away.
Taking him back on the team would definitely be a bad idea. The biggest concession that can possibly be given is to give him an honorable exit - so, formally, you are not dismissing him but he is resigning.
Reinstating him would not set a very good example and dismissing him with a certificate of dismissal might be too harsh as it would carry over with him.
From India, Delhi
Ideally, and especially if it is not a serious criminal misconduct, you would not want to brand someone for life. But obviously, you have to run an organization and you can't give out the signal that people can get away.
Taking him back on the team would definitely be a bad idea. The biggest concession that can possibly be given is to give him an honorable exit - so, formally, you are not dismissing him but he is resigning.
Reinstating him would not set a very good example and dismissing him with a certificate of dismissal might be too harsh as it would carry over with him.
From India, Delhi
One thing i wanna say here is that there is no need to start multiple post. We understand your concern but by this you not just gonna have multiple responses but are also gonna create confusions with member and response..
Your Second Thread: https://www.citehr.com/441478-can-di...ml#post1995707 i request you to avoid these actions..
From India, Gurgaon
Your Second Thread: https://www.citehr.com/441478-can-di...ml#post1995707 i request you to avoid these actions..
From India, Gurgaon
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